Hello All,

The date / time that worked out best is next Friday, 12/16 at 2pm ET. Please call in a minute or so beforehand if you can make it:

Dial-In Number: (641) 715-0682 <tel:%28641%29%20715-0682>
Access Code: 858446

You're welcome to do so even if you didn't participate in the poll. If you can't make the meeting, we hope to share a summary shortly thereafter -- and continued conversation / input via VideoLib is very much welcome!

Have a great weekend,

--

Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
http://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo <http://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo>

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Meghann Matwichuk <mtw...@udel.edu <mailto:mtw...@udel.edu>> wrote:

   Hi All,

   Meredith Miller and I are hoping to host a conference call next week
   (either Tuesday 12/13 or Friday 12/16) for those interested in
   participating in a discussion about how we can best move forward on
   the issue of educational availability advocacy for media librarians
   & vendors.  If you would like to participate, please visit this link
   and indicate your availability (times are ET):

   http://doodle.com/poll/nfr6q7dppcvndfrt
   <http://doodle.com/poll/nfr6q7dppcvndfrt>

   If you are hoping to attend, please indicate your availability by
   4pm ET this Friday, 12/9.  We'll choose the date / time with the
   greatest availability for interested participants.  Make note of
   call-in instructions on the site. Please note: we plan to do our
   best to keep the meeting to 1 hour. Thank you,

--
   Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
   Associate Librarian
   Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
   Morris Library, University of Delaware
   181 S. College Ave.
   Newark, DE 19717
   (302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
   https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
   <https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo>

   On 12/2/2016 3:23 PM, Meghann Matwichuk wrote:

    Thanks, all, for the ideas and input!  And yes, I do understand
    that there are different rights complications depending on whether
    or not Amazon / Netflix has produced the content or not.  I do
    realize this is a tall order and may not (or may not be likely to)
    result in DVD availability.  But from what I've gathered so far,
    raising awareness of the fact that these companies (and the
    content producers, in cases where they are not the distributors)
    are leaving money on the table and prohibiting content from being
    seen in certain environments is the first hurdle, so crafting some
    kind of statement in this area with a goal towards publicizing it
    seems like a good place to start.

    I agree that a conference call could be useful to begin the
    process, and would be available for one next week or the week
    after, in case it takes some time to pull together.  Meredith, are
    you able to facilitate?  I could help with the scheduling by
    putting together a Doodle poll that folks could use to indicate
    interest and availability; just let me know.

    An interesting idea from Elizabeth at Bullfrog Films is that we
    could provide examples of several of the companies who regularly
    work with educational rights (as Mat described) who could serve as
    models / references for the process in the case of those film and
    / or music producers who are simply unaware and don't know where
    to start.

--
    Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
    Associate Librarian
    Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
    Morris Library, University of Delaware
    181 S. College Ave.
    Newark, DE 19717
    (302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
    https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
    <https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo>
    On 12/2/2016 11:37 AM, meredith miller wrote:
    I love this idea! I've been pursuing this on individual basis
    with both Netflix and Amazon. My argument has been that this type
    of licensing is another potential revenue stream that they are
    not considering. I think there is a general misunderstanding
    about the educational licensing market and the value that it has
    - so I think educating them on who we are and why we are
    important is crucial.
    I'm happy to dive into this! I think it would be good to discuss
    strategy first. Is anyone interested in a conference call early
    next week?
    Meredith
    On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Susan Albrecht
    <albre...@wabash.edu <mailto:albre...@wabash.edu>> wrote:

        I think these are genius ideas from Meghann.  I especially
        like the idea of a joint letter from VRT and NMM and having
        an “all set” statement with many signatures ready to attach
        to an email we’re sending.

        So who’s the drafter? ;)

        Susan Albrecht

        Graduate Fellowship Advisor

        Library Media Acquisitions Manager

        Wabash College Lilly Library

        765-361-6216 <tel:%28765%29%20361-6216> (acquisitions) /
        765-361-6297 <tel:%28765%29%20361-6297> (fellowships)

        765-361-6295 <tel:%28765%29%20361-6295> fax

        albre...@wabash.edu <mailto:albre...@wabash.edu>

        Twitter: @Wab_Fellowships

        www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films
        <http://www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films>

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        "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
        --Neil Peart

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        *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
        <mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>
        [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
        <mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] *On Behalf Of
        *Meghann Matwichuk *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2016 10:59 AM

        *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
        <mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> *Subject:* Re:
        [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational
        Availability

        I like the idea of a petition.  Who would we target?  Amazon
        (Prime) and Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right
        now.  (But there are individual / self-distributors who are
        also only selling to individuals via stream.) Another
        possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM?
        Meredith and other vendor allies -- what do you think would
        be a good way for those of us interested in making a joint
        statement to get the attention of the right folks?
        Alternately, it might be helpful to attach something like the
        joint letter or a statement with a giant gob of signatories
        when we're all individually contacting distributors.  Like,
        keep it on your desktop and just clip it to any of these
        individual emails we might send when we advocate for
        educational distribution.  "You might be interested to know
        that there are many who are concerned about this issue, and
        are interested in purchasing hard copies and educational
        licenses.  Please see the attached letter."

--
        Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.

        Associate Librarian

        Coordinator, Film & Video Collection

        Morris Library, University of Delaware

        181 S. College Ave.

        Newark, DE 19717

        (302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>

        https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
        <https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo>

        On 12/2/2016 10:29 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote:

            Hi all,

            I’m happy to add my voice.  Is there a group letter
            writing option?  Change.org post?  Blog post option?  I
            may be able to help with the tech for this.

            Once again, Ava DuVernay has gotten the ball rolling on
            an important topic.  Why not keep it rolling?

            Regards,

            Laura

            Laura Jenemann

            Media, Film Studies & Dance Librarian

            George Mason University Libraries

            Email: ljene...@gmu.edu <mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu>

            Phone: 703-993-7593 <tel:%28703%29%20993-7593>

            *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
            <mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>
            [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
            <mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] *On Behalf
            Of *Wochna, Lorraine *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016
            6:05 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
            <mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> *Subject:* Re:
            [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o
            Educational Availability

            Meghann,

            Thanks so much for such a thorough response.

            Yes, I agree and will challenge these distributors as well!

            Best,

            lorraine

            *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
            <mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>
            [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
            <mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] *On Behalf
            Of *Meghann Matwichuk *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2016
            3:17 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
            <mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> *Subject:*
            [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o
            Educational Availability

            Thanks for passing this along, Lorraine!!  This is
            exciting!  Although, it doesn't quite solve the problem
            of having a physical copy in our collection, or a
            streaming version to which we can provide access for our
            patrons who may not have a Netflix account. I was just
            having a conversation about this (films produced by
            streaming services without any means for libraries to
            purchase hard copies or license) with the lovely Meredith
            Miller not a few hours ago, and just a week or two ago
            had an exchange with the distributors of the Netflix film
            Audrie and Daisy <http://www.audrieanddaisy.com/>.  It
            went as follows:

            Me: "Greetings, I am a media librarian at the University
            of Delaware Library. One of UD's student groups will be
            hosting a film screening of Audrie & Daisy soon, and
            we've already had requests that we add the film to our
            Library's collection so that it can be used in classes
            and made available for students to watch for research.
            Are there any plans to make Audrie & Daisy available for
            purchase on DVD soon, or via some other mechanism that
            allows institutional access?  I've personally watched the
            film via my own Netflix account, and I know it would be a
            great resource for our faculty and students. Thank you!"

            Carla @ Filmsprout:  "Thanks so much for your note, and
            we're thrilled to hear that the Library is interested in
            the film. I'm so sorry, but currently there aren't plans
            to make the film available for institutional purchase
            because the film is already available for individual and
            private classroom use via the Netflix service. However,
            I'd be glad to let you know if anything changes!"

            Me:  "Institutions are not able to subscribe to Netflix,
            so unfortunately we can't offer private classroom use via
            the Netflix service.  I hope that this may change in the
            near future, as we've been unable to provide equitable
            access to some excellent programming due to the models
            put forth by Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc.  Please do let
            me know if anything should change with 'Audrie & Daisy'."

            Carla:  "Thank you for your note, and I hear you. I've
            shared your feedback with my team, and I will absolutely
            let you know if anything changes around institutional
            licensing for the film."

            Several of us (myself, Lorraine, and a few others who may
            or may not be on VideoLib?) who attended National Media
            Market in October discussed this very thing over lunch
            one afternoon -- the need to advocate and raise awareness
            amongst the producers of films that fit into this growing
            category.  Towards that end, I'd encourage everyone to
            take the extra time to contact producers of films like
            13th, Audrie & Daisy, Transparent, etc. when your
            students / instructors request them to help the producers
            understand the need for an educational distribution model
            that would allow us to provide access to these important
            films.  Clearly, Ms. DuVernay and the Filmsprout folks
            intend for these documentaries to be widely seen and
            utilized in educational settings -- they need to hear
            from us that we share that mission and need options to
            pay them for / license their content.

            Best,

--
            Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.

            Associate Librarian

            Coordinator, Film & Video Collection

            Morris Library, University of Delaware

            181 S. College Ave.

            Newark, DE 19717

            (302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>

            https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
            <https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo>

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