Thanks Meghann.

I am most interested in this discussion but neither day works for me. I
look forward to hearing more of the outcome - as this is a big concern for
me as well.

Nancy Friedland


On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Meghann Matwichuk <mtw...@udel.edu> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Meredith Miller and I are hoping to host a conference call next week
> (either Tuesday 12/13 or Friday 12/16) for those interested in
> participating in a discussion about how we can best move forward on the
> issue of educational availability advocacy for media librarians & vendors.
> If you would like to participate, please visit this link and indicate your
> availability (times are ET):
>
> http://doodle.com/poll/nfr6q7dppcvndfrt
> If you are hoping to attend, please indicate your availability by 4pm ET
> this Friday, 12/9.  We'll choose the date / time with the greatest
> availability for interested participants.  Make note of call-in
> instructions on the site.
>
> Please note: we plan to do our best to keep the meeting to 1 hour.
>
> Thank you,
>
> --
>
> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
> Associate Librarian
> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
> Morris Library, University of Delaware
> 181 S. College Ave.
> Newark, DE 19717(302) 831-1475https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
>
>
>
> On 12/2/2016 3:23 PM, Meghann Matwichuk wrote:
>
> Thanks, all, for the ideas and input!  And yes, I do understand that there
> are different rights complications depending on whether or not Amazon /
> Netflix has produced the content or not.  I do realize this is a tall order
> and may not (or may not be likely to) result in DVD availability.  But from
> what I've gathered so far, raising awareness of the fact that these
> companies (and the content producers, in cases where they are not the
> distributors) are leaving money on the table and prohibiting content from
> being seen in certain environments is the first hurdle, so crafting some
> kind of statement in this area with a goal towards publicizing it seems
> like a good place to start.
>
> I agree that a conference call could be useful to begin the process, and
> would be available for one next week or the week after, in case it takes
> some time to pull together.  Meredith, are you able to facilitate?  I could
> help with the scheduling by putting together a Doodle poll that folks could
> use to indicate interest and availability; just let me know.
>
> An interesting idea from Elizabeth at Bullfrog Films is that we could
> provide examples of several of the companies who regularly work with
> educational rights (as Mat described) who could serve as models /
> references for the process in the case of those film and / or music
> producers who are simply unaware and don't know where to start.
>
> --
>
> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
> Associate Librarian
> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
> Morris Library, University of Delaware
> 181 S. College Ave.
> Newark, DE 19717(302) 831-1475https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
>
>
> On 12/2/2016 11:37 AM, meredith miller wrote:
>
> I love this idea! I've been pursuing this on individual basis with both
> Netflix and Amazon. My argument has been that this type of licensing is
> another potential revenue stream that they are not considering. I think
> there is a general misunderstanding about the educational licensing market
> and the value that it has - so I think educating them on who we are and why
> we are important is crucial.
>
> I'm happy to dive into this! I think it would be good to discuss strategy
> first. Is anyone interested in a conference call early next week?
>
> Meredith
>
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Susan Albrecht <albre...@wabash.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> I think these are genius ideas from Meghann.  I especially like the idea
>> of a joint letter from VRT and NMM and having an “all set” statement with
>> many signatures ready to attach to an email we’re sending.
>>
>>
>>
>> So who’s the drafter? ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan Albrecht
>>
>> Graduate Fellowship Advisor
>>
>> Library Media Acquisitions Manager
>>
>> Wabash College Lilly Library
>>
>> 765-361-6216 <%28765%29%20361-6216> (acquisitions) / 765-361-6297
>> <%28765%29%20361-6297> (fellowships)
>>
>> 765-361-6295 <%28765%29%20361-6295> fax
>>
>> albre...@wabash.edu
>>
>> Twitter:  @Wab_Fellowships
>>
>> www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films
>>
>>
>>
>> *******************************************************************
>>
>> "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." --Neil Peart
>>
>> *******************************************************************
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
>> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Meghann Matwichuk
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2016 10:59 AM
>>
>> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o
>> Educational Availability
>>
>>
>>
>> I like the idea of a petition.  Who would we target?  Amazon (Prime) and
>> Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right now.  (But there are
>> individual / self-distributors who are also only selling to individuals via
>> stream.)
>>
>> Another possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM?
>>
>> Meredith and other vendor allies -- what do you think would be a good way
>> for those of us interested in making a joint statement to get the attention
>> of the right folks?
>>
>> Alternately, it might be helpful to attach something like the joint
>> letter or a statement with a giant gob of signatories when we're all
>> individually contacting distributors.  Like, keep it on your desktop and
>> just clip it to any of these individual emails we might send when we
>> advocate for educational distribution.  "You might be interested to know
>> that there are many who are concerned about this issue, and are interested
>> in purchasing hard copies and educational licenses.  Please see the
>> attached letter."
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
>>
>> Associate Librarian
>>
>> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
>>
>> Morris Library, University of Delaware
>>
>> 181 S. College Ave.
>>
>> Newark, DE 19717
>>
>> (302) 831-1475
>>
>> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/2016 10:29 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m happy to add my voice.  Is there a group letter writing option?
>> Change.org post?  Blog post option?  I may be able to help with the tech
>> for this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once again, Ava DuVernay has gotten the ball rolling on an important
>> topic.  Why not keep it rolling?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>>
>> Laura Jenemann
>>
>> Media, Film Studies & Dance Librarian
>>
>> George Mason University Libraries
>>
>> Email: ljene...@gmu.edu
>>
>> Phone: 703-993-7593 <%28703%29%20993-7593>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [
>> mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
>> <videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Wochna, Lorraine
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:05 PM *To:*
>> videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming
>> Distribution w/o Educational Availability
>>
>>
>>
>> Meghann,
>>
>> Thanks so much for such a thorough response.
>>
>> Yes, I agree and will challenge these distributors as well!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> lorraine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [
>> mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
>> <videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Meghann Matwichuk
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:17 PM *To:*
>> videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* [Videolib] 13th and Streaming
>> Distribution w/o Educational Availability
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for passing this along, Lorraine!!  This is exciting!  Although,
>> it doesn't quite solve the problem of having a physical copy in our
>> collection, or a streaming version to which we can provide access for our
>> patrons who may not have a Netflix account.  I was just having a
>> conversation about this (films produced by streaming services without any
>> means for libraries to purchase hard copies or license) with the lovely
>> Meredith Miller not a few hours ago, and just a week or two ago had an
>> exchange with the distributors of the Netflix film Audrie and Daisy
>> <http://www.audrieanddaisy.com/>.  It went as follows:
>>
>> Me: "Greetings, I am a media librarian at the University of Delaware
>> Library. One of UD's student groups will be hosting a film screening of
>> Audrie & Daisy soon, and we've already had requests that we add the film to
>> our Library's collection so that it can be used in classes and made
>> available for students to watch for research. Are there any plans to make
>> Audrie & Daisy available for purchase on DVD soon, or via some other
>> mechanism that allows institutional access?  I've personally watched the
>> film via my own Netflix account, and I know it would be a great resource
>> for our faculty and students. Thank you!"
>>
>> Carla @ Filmsprout:  "Thanks so much for your note, and we're thrilled to
>> hear that the Library is interested in the film. I'm so sorry, but
>> currently there aren't plans to make the film available for institutional
>> purchase because the film is already available for individual and private
>> classroom use via the Netflix service. However, I'd be glad to let you know
>> if anything changes!"
>>
>> Me:  "Institutions are not able to subscribe to Netflix, so unfortunately
>> we can't offer private classroom use via the Netflix service.  I hope that
>> this may change in the near future, as we've been unable to provide
>> equitable access to some excellent programming due to the models put forth
>> by Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc.  Please do let me know if anything should
>> change with 'Audrie & Daisy'."
>>
>> Carla:  "Thank you for your note, and I hear you. I've shared your
>> feedback with my team, and I will absolutely let you know if anything
>> changes around institutional licensing for the film."
>>
>> Several of us (myself, Lorraine, and a few others who may or may not be
>> on VideoLib?) who attended National Media Market in October discussed this
>> very thing over lunch one afternoon -- the need to advocate and raise
>> awareness amongst the producers of films that fit into this growing
>> category.  Towards that end, I'd encourage everyone to take the extra time
>> to contact producers of films like 13th, Audrie & Daisy, Transparent, etc.
>> when your students / instructors request them to help the producers
>> understand the need for an educational distribution model that would allow
>> us to provide access to these important films.  Clearly, Ms. DuVernay and
>> the Filmsprout folks intend for these documentaries to be widely seen and
>> utilized in educational settings -- they need to hear from us that we share
>> that mission and need options to pay them for / license their content.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
>>
>> Associate Librarian
>>
>> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
>>
>> Morris Library, University of Delaware
>>
>> 181 S. College Ave.
>>
>> Newark, DE 19717
>>
>> (302) 831-1475
>>
>> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
>>
>>
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