I may have missed it in the beginnings of this thread, but I do not see any reference to what the source of this cittern tablature is. Is it available for review, online or otherwise?
On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:24 AM, "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Many thanks. > This is the old 'Italian' tuning of the Renaissance cittern. So maybe > this cittern tab is a lot older than Santiago's (as you suggest). This > cittern version of the tune seems much more primitive. And Santiago's B > section is 16 bars. > > > > I think it may be older than generally supposed. It is very crudely > copied. But I believe some of the repertoire is later than early 17th > century. > Re-entrant tuning on plectrum citterns always strike me as odd - though > there's no doubt about it. Why would you want to set a melody line > which jumps between first and fourth courses? It's not campanella, and > it's just plain awkward with a plectrum. > > > > In my experience it isn't awkward at all. I borrowed the Lute > Society's cittern and played through all the pieces - which mostly > consist of a sequence of strummed chords and a single melodic > line which splits the melody between the 4th course and the 1st and > 2nd. With a plectrum this works perfectly - it is the same as > altenating thumb and fingers. It seemed entirely logical to me. And > when you strum the chords it doesn't matter that the lowest course > isn't the 4th. > > As I understand the renaissance cittern has only 4-courses because the > wire strings are all the same length. They pass over a bridge to the > nut. Because of its limited compass having a re-entrant tuning is an > advantage. > > If you have more low bass strings you need to have the bridge set at an > angle so that these are longer than the treble ones. > > > > Monica > > On 25 June 2012 20:40, Monica Hall <[1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Monica > What is this cittern music? So it's Spansih cittern music from the > early 18th century? > Yes - or possibly early 17th century. It is not dated. > Do you know anything about the kind of cttern intended by the music? > It has four courses and is triple stung throughout =. > Bordones[3], > Requintas [3 with single Bordon in middle], > Segundas[3], > Primas[3] > It has a re-entrant tuning (Yipee!) - the 3rd course has a low octave > string in between the two treble ones. The other courses are in > unison. It is tuned bbb gGg dd ee and is diatonically fretted > and also has partial frets at the top of the finger board. > The bourdon on the 3rd course is of twisted brass. > It is played with a plectrum and the music is in Italian tablature. > For good measure I will send you Azucena off the list. > Monica > > On 25 June 2012 14:38, Monica Hall <[1][2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > La Azuzena = kind of flower? I can't figure out the repeats. It's > A+B 3 > times (A is 8 bars and B 16 bars) I played it AAB A'A'B' A''B'', for > some reason or other. > I just looked at the cittern version (should have done that first!) > - and what I said is incorrect!!! Sorry about that. Alejandro > Vera > hadn't seen the cittern version. > I think it is a villancico. The Copla is in two sections and each > is repeated. But the last bit is the Estribillo or refrain. The > estribillo is really supposed to alternate with the copla. But if > that is how Murcia intended to be performed - he hasn't made it > very > clear. > So what you are doing seems to be right. > As ever in too much of a hurry > Monica > Stuart > -- > References > > 1. [2][3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0dKVUa2FY > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- > References > 1. mailto:[5]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk > 2. [6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0dKVUa2FY > 3. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk > 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk > 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0dKVUa2FY > 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > 5. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk > 6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0dKVUa2FY > 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >
