Benjamin Fritz wrote:
> The link in the sidebar on the wiki for "Categories" links to
> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Browse. On this category
> page, Category:Browse is described as the "root" category,
> but I have been unable to access any of our tip categories
> from this "root" category every time I try.

Can you spell out what the problem is?

For me, it seems to work fine:
- Click 'Categories' in sidebar.
- See Category:Browse page.
- Click the '+' next to the VimTip category.
- See expanded list of subcategories.
- Click (for example) '+' next to Usage subcategory.
- Click Searching to see pages in Category:Searching.

Expanding the '+' only works with Javascript enabled.

The text on Category:Browse should be improved to provide an overview of the
idea and a few hints.

> I propose directly naming Browse as the parent category for
> all our top-level tip categories (Usage, Integration, etc.).
> Currently, the parent is listed as VimTip, but if these
> category pages show up among the thousands of tip pages, I
> haven't been able to find them. Any thoughts? If I don't get
> any feedback in a few days, I'll probably just start changing
> parent categories as proposed.

I don't understand the problem. I recommend caution and some pretty
extensive planning before large scale manipulation of the categories.

I am slowly beginning to understand Categories. One point is that the wiki
needs pages for admin, and pages for tips, and pages for other stuff. I
recently added the VimInformation category for a few pages that are neither
admin nor tips.

If Category:Usage had Browse as its parent, you couldn't tell whether the
"Usage" referred to usage of Vim, or usage of the wiki, or maybe usage of
the mailing list. If Metacosm brings many IRC people, maybe we would want a
usage of IRC category as well, and other things in the future.

I have skipped doing any significant work on categories because a lot of
serious planning is needed, and I'm not sure how effective that planning
would be until more wiki experience was gained.

Maybe the Category:Browse talk page could have a large <pre>...</pre>
section with an ascii-art chart showing a proposed plan. There are a couple
of things in Browse that perhaps should be elsewhere. Maybe hide Copyright
and Forums under 'Administration of this site'. I didn't know what to do
with 'All tips for C family programming', but it should be elsewhere.

John

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