All the misquoted theory below seems to be at odds with practice, I can't
but speculate why someone would want to remove something except ...


On 2/19/16, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> And the attacks listed there rely on the MAC, which as you point out, Vim
>> omits anyway. AND they are timing attacks, which if you have the
>> capability to carry out on Vim's encryption, you could do much easier and
>> more effective attacks anyway as I point out above.
>
> The set of attacks that apply against "we fucked up our protocol and shipped
> something other than Encrypt-Then-MAC" is much, much smaller than the set of
> attacks that apply against "we don't authenticate at all".
>
> The most trivial example of an attack against unauthenticated encryption was
> Serge Vaudenay's CBC padding oracle attack against CBC mode (which is smilar
> to CFB mode).
>
>> `[everything ` @tarcieri ` said]`
>
> 100% agreement. Encryption for the sake of encryption is a bad model. It
> should have a defined purpose within an explicitly defined threat model in
> terms of how real users would use the system.
>
> Vim would be much better off migrating away from this model and encouraging
> Full Disk Encryption instead, i.e. dm_crypt.
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