On 30/08/09 07:23, John Beckett wrote: > > Patrick Gen-Paul >> The problem is that with the other two mailing lists, any >> message that I post makes it to their respective lists in a >> matter of seconds and this does not happen with the vim >> mailing list. > > What Fuzzy Logic said is correct: For whatever reason, you will > never receive messages that you send from a gmail account to a > Google Group (that is, you will not receive your own message). > > You can confirm that your messages are sent immediately at: > http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use > > Except (as Raúl explained): The first message from a new user > may have to wait several hours until a manager is available. > Google Groups has a fundamental problem, namely the amount of > spam is phenomenal, and it is absolutely essential that each new > user has their first message manually checked. > > John
In apparent contradiction to §2 above, I see every message from the Vim groups in my POP3 inbox for @gmail.com. Also mine. HOWEVER, due to what I suppose is a "spam-fighting" measure on the part of my ISP, I am blocked from accessing any SMTP server (in cleartext on port 25 or over SSL/TLS on port 587) except those operated by my own ISP: so I have to send my messages (from SeaMonkey Mail, which is very similar to Thunderbird) to relay.skynet.be or relay.belgacom.net, albeit with a @gmail.com "From" address if I want to (my mail headers will show you that this message entered the Net at some "belgacom" or "skynet" SMTP server, nowhere near Google). Or I could use webmail but I don't like it. This "roundabout" posting circuit may also explain why it usually takes more than just "a second or two" for my outgoing vim-list posts to appear in my Inbox, even if I click "File => Get Messages For => Google Mail". I'd say ten seconds to a minute is more likely, which is still "quite fast". It very rarely happens that the message doesn't appear spontaneously in my SeaMonkey Inbox at all, but then I can get it back by using the SeaMonkey "Browser" window to access my Google webmail (I suppose Patrick would use Firefox for that), open the "Spam" folder, select any false positives (i.e. legitimate mail erroneously detected as spam) then click "Not Spam" near the top or bottom of the list. This moves them back from Spam to Inbox within Gmail, and the next time SeaMonkey Mail (or Thunderbird) polls the POP mailbox, they get downloaded. In any case, I recommend to "train" your Gmail spam filters by selecting any false negatives in Trash (which is where Gmail puts the mail which has been successfully downloaded and "deleted from server" by a POP3 client), then "More actions => Report as spam", any false positives in Spam then "Not Spam", and then clearing away the legitimate (read) mail from Trash and the "true spam" from Spam so you won't have to check again next time what you already checked now. Best regards, Tony. -- Show me a man who is a good loser and I'll show you a man who is playing golf with his boss. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
