On Oct 25, 7:03 pm, chrisA <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doug McNutt wrote:

> If I use Transmit on the old Mac as ftp client and turn on its "Don't
> filter file names" option, the problem characters show up in OS X as
> three characters, a percent sign and the two-digit hex code of the
> character, like "%97", which is 151 in decimal. This is consistent and
> predictable, at least.
>
> Something like the old "Drop Rename" utility could batch-process file
> names, searching and replacing strings. But it didn't make the switch
> to OS X.
>
Perl could do that pretty easy. If you can make up a list of the codes
and what they stand for.
Perl is made for things like that. It could also convert the other
way...


>
> tortoise wrote:
> > OS9 isn't quite vintage, vintage is more like 68k pre powerpc and the
> > classic compact original macs and the like (at least by these lists
> > categories).
>
> Yes I know. But this isn't about my particular problem with a G3/OS
> 9.1 Mac. It affects all pre-OS X Macs. None of them can afp file-share
> to new Macs shipping today, or from now on.

Its just that 9.1 has limited unicode support (slightly better if you
can get to 9.2)
>
> > Have you tried Personal Web Sharing ? You can put aliases of folders
> > you want to share into your Web Pages ("Sites") folder on your server
> > and then download via a browser.
>
> I just tried that, and Safari sees the files OK and the names are
> correct in the browser window. But you can only download files that
> way, not folders, or whole folder structures. And any file names that
> have åæø etc. characters get renamed with the server name. So "test
> åæø.txt" becomes "192.168.1.2.txt". Also, Personal Web Sharing isn't
> available to many vintage Macs.

Well for folders, if you are makeing backups you could / should put
them on diskimages.

The main disadvantage of websharing to me is that it is not
bidirectional. although mozilla may have an upload feature.

Well I have the 8.5 version running on 8.1, I have no idea if it works
on 7 but its likely. The thing about that was where the downloading
happened properly, I think something like that

for the filenames I was thinking the other direction that an os9
browser could translate the unicode.

>
> This may not be a big problem for many vintage-Mac owners yet, but it

well someone determined might be able to get a samba client going,
since it is open source... (aka windoz file sharing).

I wouldn't be surprise if apple dropped their own file sharing, samba
is the standard in the unix world now even though nfs still exists...
(once there was netatalk aka appletalk too but that broke a few years
back ...)





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