>The current thing seems to be disposing of G3 stock that is no longer  
>'useable' becuase OS X has moved on so far that it's not percieved to  
>really any longer feasible to use it day in day out on a G3 machine.  
>In the dumpster with it all...
>
>In my opinion it's sick, and stupid. There are people out there who  
>don't have a computer, and want one but don't have the cash. Give  
>them a nice shiny G3 B&W with a 10GB hard disk and OS 9.2, Eudora and  
>a copy of AppleWorks 6 and they are set to go. Some people simply  
>don't NEED power. The trouble is no-one takes the time to think about  
>it cause it doesn't make money, or so they think...
>
>As for the old 68ks, I'm sure many a person here will tell you many  
>of them are as good for e-mail and word processing stuff as any G5  
>supercomputer, after all the limiting factor is not the machine when  
>typing it's the users fingers and brain :o)
>
>-- 
>Mark Benson

I'm running 10.3 on a PowerBook Lombard @ 333 mhz and it seems fast
enough, also a G3 450 B&W and it seems fine too. In fact OSX boots up
faster on these two older Macs than my G4 450 running 9.2.1.

One of the bigger used computer shops here in Toronto just adjusted their
used price list downwards and I wonder if that is a result of the Mac Mini
driving used prices down. If these are only $400 computers now what would
they be worth in 4-5 years at the rate of depreciation we see on 4-5 year
old computers now.

http://www.cpused.com/pricelists_www/framed.html

B&W's on eBay are under $100 us from what I see though those might be rev
A's.

At these rates I think we'll upgrade a friend of ours who's a writer. Up
until last fall he was using a backlit Mac Portable because it has a
fullsize keyboard and nice screen. It finally got unreliable and I ran out
of spare parts to keep it going so it was retired and replaced with an
SE/30 which he likes other than the screen which isn't as big.

For Christmas maybe we'll upgrade him to a PowerBook 520c which I was
given and am fixing up. He doesn't want anything fancy......the colour
screen might be too much of a shock for him come to think of it.

We replaced our G4's at work with G5's recently and honestly I can't say
there is a huge speed difference or advantage but then we work with fairly
small picture files. The only reason we made the swap was some odd
corporate mandate that had to be fullfilled, maybe just that the G4's were
too old.....which is dumb since they work just fine for what we need to
do. We haven't fully switched over yet because we are having issues with
QuarkXPress on the G5's, have to admit I don't like OSX much from the
standpoint of having to find all the hidden files that only the root user
has access to.  I'm not a hater of progress I just wonder if all this
speed is really nessessary as well. Speaking of which, we are having a lot
of problems with Photoshop on the G5's, the mice/cursors are really
twitchy and it's become a really hassle to use them to make selections on
photos because the mouse responds too quickly even with the speed dialed
right down.

Kevin



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