ok... with ya now... still... leaving a HDD running for a week shouldnt have killed it... if it did then it was on the verge of death anyhow...
2:56am up 26 days, 4:40, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 (its an x86 machine but there is an apple branded IDE drive in there that hasnt spun down at any time during that 26 days... wish i had a ups.. i could brag about my servers uptime even more :P ) question; booting from the external drive with an internal drive installed can the OS see the internal drive? (or will it not allow you to do this?... if not boot from floppy and see if it sees the internal drive...) if it cant see the internal drive at all then just boot from the external drive and consider the machine a partial loss... if it can see the drive then reformat it and reinstall the os... see if it'll boot then... humor me for a moment on this one; put a multiconnector scsi cable inside with a terminator attached and see what it does.... (the original drive the LC used may have a specific built-in termination that the other drive you are trying to use doesnt have... or it maybe the opposite... the original drive didnt have termination but the new one does and there is also termination on the motherboard... see if there is a way to enable/disable the one on the motherboard if it exists... scsi is a wily beast...) On 18/08/05, Kyle Koerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, sorry about the top-posting thing, i thought that it was > customary to post on the bottom (we had a big debate on this in the > iMac LEM list). Anyway, the deal with the hard drive is as follows. > I REMOVED the internal drive from the LC III, then I put it into an > external SCSI box. I connected the SCSI box to my LC 520. (I wanted > to copy files form one drive to the other). I turned OFF the LC 520, > but forgot to turn off the SCSI box that contained the LC III's > INTERNAL hard drive. > > Hopefully that is clear... I'm not sure how else to say it. > > Now, that was left on ALL WEEK, causing that drive to die. Now, the > LC III won't boot, even with another hard drive on the internal SCSI > cable. With an external SCSI drive, it boots fine. > > Kyle- > > On Aug 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Samual Acorn wrote: > > > ....top posting fixed? > > > > ok.. confused... how would leaving an external harddrive turned on > > keep the internal turned on... arent the power and data cables > > seperate?? if the internal was left spinning (powered) by the power > > supply in the external box and the scsi bus on this comp still works i > > would check the power cable... > > > > or... is it the external that is damaged from being left on for a > > week? (that -still- shouldnt have been a problem... the drive would > > have just sat idle) > > > > either you arent wording this correctly or i have completely jumped > > the tracks on this one cos i am lost... > > > > On 18/08/05, Kyle Koerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Aug 18, 2005, at 3:10 AM, Samual Acorn wrote: > >> > >> (top posting fixed) > >> > >> > >>> > >>> On 15/08/05, Kyle Koerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi All > >>>> I asked about networking my old LCs together a little while > >>>> earlier. > >>>> Well, now the LC III's hard drive died. I had it in an external > >>>> box > >>>> to copy some info to a Performa, and I accidently left it on for a > >>>> week straight. Anyway, now the LC III won't boot. I have put the > >>>> drive from my LC 520 (7.5.3) in the III, and it refuses to boot - > >>>> just the ? . However, if I put the good drive in an external SCSI > >>>> box, and then power on the LC with no internal drive, it will work > >>>> just fine. > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas would be much appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> Kyle- > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> bad internal cable? bad scsi termination? > >>> try zapping the pram and see what it does... option-apple-p-r on > >>> power > >>> up... (i think thats the right key-sequence) > >>> > >>> btw, left it on as in powered on? (that shouldnt have caused any > >>> problems) or left it on as in connected? (that shouldnt have > >>> either... but...) > >>> > >> > >> > >> Well, i tried the PRAM , that didn't help. 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