I'm almost positive that there was something like this
on the IIfx in reguards to RAM. I don't know why, but
the IIfx was an oddball of sorts. The black SCSI
terminator, the quirky RAM. I have a dead one at my
warehouse (yes, I got a smaller place and had to store
all but one of my old Macs--a Classic is the only one
with me) and I will make an effort to check the RAM
out on it when I go in a few weeks. I might put it
side by side with my other II series (I have a IIsi, a
II, and an SE/30 which is like a IIx) just to see.

Scott

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> on 8/31/05 4:27 PM, John Niven at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Aug 31, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Jeff Walther wrote:
> >> The pinout shows a separate data_in and data_out
> pin for each bit of
> >> the SIMM.  In other words, it's an eight bit
> SIMM, but instead of
> >> simply having eight data pins Data[0:7] it has
> eight Data_In[0:7] and
> >> eight Data_Out[0:7] pins.
> > 
> > The "by one bit" DRAMs had separate input and
> output pins. Most users
> > just tied them together and hooked them to a
> bi-directional bus. I
> > haven't looked into this, but I always assumed
> that what the IIfx did
> > was keep the In and Out busses separate so that
> the timing operations
> > could be overlapped thus speeding up memory
> operations.
> > 
> >> That could imply that the IIfx SIMM requires
> bizarre dual data ported
> >> chips, but the chip examples I've identified
> (thanks Bob) seem to be
> >> normal DRAM chips.
> > 
> > I assume the mother board has the "bizarre dual
> data ported chips" so
> > the SIMMs are unique in NOT hooking the In and Out
> pins together :-)
> > 
> > 
> > John
> > 
>  Didn't IIfx RAM's have nine bits for error
> detection? I seem to remember
> that there was something different about them and
> the RAM for a IIfx was
> unique to that Mac. All other Macs of that vintage
> had interchangeable RAM.
> 
> r
> 
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