Hmmm...

Not a bad idea at all.  My fabricator for die-cut lettering (I use Letter-Rite, 
in the Chicago area) can also cut masking tape to order, mounted on a low-tack 
backing strip.  That would make the job you describe even better, and it would 
produce that debossed look.

Good tip!

Bert

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jun 8, 2007 8:37 AM
>To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Shift pattern decal for ashtray
>
>Just an idea......
>
>I wonder if, in painting the ashtray and using the decal, you couldn't 
>simulate the embossing. Take the ashtray and first paint it a white to match 
>the decal, then place the decal in position (the lines and numbers/letters) 
>then peel off the line portion. Spray the ashtray the dash color....maybe 
>give it an extra coat....then peel off the numbers/letters and you should 
>have an embossed look. Reposition the line portion of the decal and finish 
>the whole thing with a clearcoat to even out the gloss differences in the 
>line decal and painted numbers/letters and match the same gloss as the rest 
>of the dash paint. You could even do a mock up on a scrap piece of metal 
>using store-bought stick-on numbers and masking tape for the lines......
>
>Mike
>73T1
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Robert Knupp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List'" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 00:15
>Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Shift pattern decal for ashtray
>
>
>Mike and all,
>
>I'm coming to the same conclusion.  The K-G has exactly the same pattern
>silkscreened onto the dashboard -- woodgrain on many models.  The typeface
>is DIN-Mittelschrift (looks a lot like Helvetica or Arial, but the "1" is
>slightly different).  The original, quaintly, has the white diagram and
>1,2,3,4,N and R slightly depressed into the original paint, as if it had
>been hot-stamped.  I've got to do a repaint on the ashtray cover to make it
>match the police-car green (it's RAL6009 Fir Green).  I'm thinking of doing
>a computer reproduction of the pattern, taking it to a local place that
>makes silk screens (they do most of Ford Motor Co's work), then screening it
>on using a white styrene ink that would etch the car paint slightly.  The
>other possibility would be to use the positive to have a die-cut vinyl
>graphic made (I do that routinely for police logos, etc.).  They wouldn't be
>etched into the paint then -- they would stick to the surface of the paint
>instead.  But I could make up several hundred of them and market them to
>recoup the cost a bit.
>
>Why can't things be simple?
>
>Bert Knupp in Music City USA
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
>Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:57 PM
>To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Shift pattern decal for ashtray
>
>
>Bert..... I think all the shift patterns were silk-screened onto the ashtray
>
>cover. My '73 (with padded dash) has the pattern painted on over the
>pebble-grain plastic. I have seen OEM replacements of the ashtray cover for
>the later models....
>
>I would think with the wealth of graphics software out there it would be
>possible to create a decal....finding a graphics shop would be a good place
>to start. Or, a local artisan or shop that does silk-screening.
>
>
>Mike
>73T1
>
>
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