You might want to join this list too - : "Accessible iOS" <[email protected]> - as thisis where I first heard of it and I think the skill level and tech savvi is higher; should make for useful feedback.
Ok, a good number of those are here too; but not all, so worth a try. Thanks, RobH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "EWTEch Accessibility" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone Thank you Rob, we appreciate your good feedback and we hope that also someone else could feel comfortable using TypeInBraille. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > "Training" is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app, > but > practice is certainly the key. It comes quite naturally to a previous or > current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back > and > had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back. > > RobH, on a xp pc at the moment. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > Hi guys, > thank you for your appreciation. > We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as > Rob said. > > Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a > labor-intensive > way of > inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster > than using the traditional keyboard or any other app. > On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user, > can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the > TypeInBraille keyboard. The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you at > 5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with > the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter > of practice. > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what is necessary. I'd like > all > > editors to have that 3 mode system and they'd all be good, but they > > haven't. suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused > > between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the > > menu > > even.... and I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I > missed > > it! > > > > Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in > > the > > normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going > > back > > directly and swiping back to the top... gets irritating, but just > > remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we > > can > > skip that issue. But the scrub would help. > > > > So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure > > that > > can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of > > changing mode. > > > > But still love it for the efficiency, and it is you know; and gets > > things > > done with much less groping about. > > > > Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even. > > > > Many thanks, and it is appreciated. > > > > RobH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers > of > > TypeInBraille app. > > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it > > as > > a good solution to type on your mobile device. > > > > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > > > > Thank you > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers < > > [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > > > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > > > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, > > > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I > > > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when > > > I've more time. > > > > > > Jeremiah > > > > > > > > > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > we > > > have > > > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > > > > amount > > > even > > > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, > > > return, > > > > More numbers/letter/other, etc. > > > > > > > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting > > > > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate > > thumb > > > > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM > > > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > > > > > > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the > > > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, > > > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just > > > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the > > > > only > > > > thing that seemed odd. > > > > > > > > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved > > > > the > > > > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less > > > > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I > > > > got > > > > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my > > > > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more > accurately, > > > > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm > > > > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. > > > > > > > > Jeremiah Z. Rogers > > > > Mobile: 704-996-5334 > > > > Email: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/19/12, Jane <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work > > > >> using > > > touch > > > >> typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. > > > >> > > > >> Jane > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so > > > >>> hand > > > >>> over > > > >>> the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a > > > >>> bit, > > > >>> now > > > >>> doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. > Once > > > you > > > >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation > to > > > undo > > > >>> it > > > >>> and learn it another. > > > >>> > > > >>> RobH. > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: "Holly" <[email protected]> > > > >>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM > > > >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index > > > >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a > > > >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a > > > >>> computer > > > >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not > > > >>> too > > > >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. 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