Thank you for the information. We've just join the list. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> You might want to join this list too - : "Accessible iOS" > <[email protected]> - as thisis where I first heard of it and I think the > skill level and tech savvi is higher; should make for useful feedback. > > Ok, a good number of those are here too; but not all, so worth a try. > > Thanks, RobH. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > Thank you Rob, > we appreciate your good feedback and we hope that also someone else could > feel comfortable using TypeInBraille. > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > "Training" is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app, > > but > > practice is certainly the key. It comes quite naturally to a previous or > > current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back > > and > > had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back. > > > > RobH, on a xp pc at the moment. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > Hi guys, > > thank you for your appreciation. > > We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as > > Rob said. > > > > Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a > > labor-intensive > > way of > > inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much > faster > > than using the traditional keyboard or any other app. > > On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user, > > can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the > > TypeInBraille keyboard. The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you > at > > 5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with > > the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter > > of practice. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what is necessary. I'd like > > all > > > editors to have that 3 mode system and they'd all be good, but they > > > haven't. suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused > > > between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the > > > menu > > > even.... and I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I > > missed > > > it! > > > > > > Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in > > > the > > > normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going > > > back > > > directly and swiping back to the top... gets irritating, but just > > > remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so > we > > > can > > > skip that issue. But the scrub would help. > > > > > > So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure > > > that > > > can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means > of > > > changing mode. > > > > > > But still love it for the efficiency, and it is you know; and gets > > > things > > > done with much less groping about. > > > > > > Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even. > > > > > > Many thanks, and it is appreciated. > > > > > > RobH. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers > > of > > > TypeInBraille app. > > > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > it > > > as > > > a good solution to type on your mobile device. > > > > > > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > > > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers < > > > [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > > > > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > > > > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately > though, > > > > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than > I > > > > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when > > > > I've more time. > > > > > > > > Jeremiah > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > > we > > > > have > > > > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > > > > > amount > > > > even > > > > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, > > > > return, > > > > > More numbers/letter/other, etc. > > > > > > > > > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting > > > > > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate > > > thumb > > > > > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the > > > > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain > words, > > > > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just > > > > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the > > > > > only > > > > > thing that seemed odd. > > > > > > > > > > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved > > > > > the > > > > > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less > > > > > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I > > > > > got > > > > > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my > > > > > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more > > accurately, > > > > > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm > > > > > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. > > > > > > > > > > Jeremiah Z. Rogers > > > > > Mobile: 704-996-5334 > > > > > Email: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/19/12, Jane <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work > > > > >> using > > > > touch > > > > >> typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's > working. > > > > >> > > > > >> Jane > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, > so > > > > >>> hand > > > > >>> over > > > > >>> the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands > a > > > > >>> bit, > > > > >>> now > > > > >>> doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. > > Once > > > > you > > > > >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation > > to > > > > undo > > > > >>> it > > > > >>> and learn it another. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> RobH. > > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>> From: "Holly" <[email protected]> > > > > >>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> > > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM > > > > >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index > > > > >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using > a > > > > >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a > > > > >>> computer > > > > >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not > > > > >>> too > > > > >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. 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