By some fluke I used a 3finger down and it took me to another page where it had a standard text input field and the onscreen keyboard. Not sure what that's for, but I got to read the text at least. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimber Gardner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone
The roter is driving me a little crazy. I don't seem to be able to get the correct roter and so am having difficulty verifying what I've written. Also the punctuation seems a bit cumbersome. K On 5/31/12, Sandy Finley <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not sure yet what I'd suggest as an alternative but I think that > rotor > is a problem. Wonder if it would be easier to make TIB default to Insert > Mode when you open it and then put the other choices in the menu. It's a > lot > easier to flick up than do that rotor motion. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of EWTEch Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other > users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the > right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so > that > the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you > switch > the three different modes using the right rotor. > > > > Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into > TypeInBraille.. > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. > But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, > select. > Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or > VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, > language,... > and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. > Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the > corrections. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but > what > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > Jane > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > >> Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I >> worked >> with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I >> thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could >> have been. >> >> First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of >> it >> as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app >> what >> you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. >> A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two >> dots >> in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way >> he >> describes A initially is: >> 1 one-finger tap for the top row >> One three-finger tap for the second row >> One three-finger tap for the third. >> >> But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick >> one >> finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done >> with that character. This speeds you up considerably. >> B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. >> C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right >> flick. >> >> It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the >> way >> I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It >> tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. >> >> Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and >> copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do >> e-mail >> addresses or type in search boxes. >> >> >> I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. >> >> Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. >> >> Sandy >> >> C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) >> followed by a one-finger flick right. From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> >> I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when >> I >> read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial >> impression >> is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. >> >> Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? >> >> Kimber >> >> On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >>> developers of TypeInBraille app. >>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >>> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >>> >>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >>> <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >>>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well >>>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >>>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often >>>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >>>> that when I've more time. >>>> >>>> Jeremiah >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then >>>>> we >>>> have >>>>> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain >>>>> amount >>>> even >>>>> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, >>>> return, >>>>> More numbers/letter/other, etc. >>>>> >>>>> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting >>>>> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate >>>>> thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Jeremiah Rogers" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the >>>>> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain >>>>> words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the >>>>> hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, >>>>> that's the only thing that seemed odd. >>>>> >>>>> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved >>>>> the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten >>>>> less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being >>>>> when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just >>>>> be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more >>>>> accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this >>>>> thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. >>>>> >>>>> Jeremiah Z. Rogers >>>>> Mobile: 704-996-5334 >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/12, Jane <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work >>>>>> using >>>> touch >>>>>> typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jane >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, >>>>>>> so hand over >>>>>>> the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a >>>>>>> bit, >>>>>>> now >>>>>>> doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. >>>>>>> Once >>>> you >>>>>>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation >>>>>>> to >>>> undo >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> and learn it another. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RobH. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Holly" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index >>>>>>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using >>>>>>> a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a >>>>>>> computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my >>>>>>> thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. 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