To verify what you've written you have to flick with 3 fingers from right to left and the voiceover will read the text to you, so that you can verify everything.
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > By some fluke I used a 3finger down and it took me to another page where > it > had a standard text input field and the onscreen keyboard. Not sure what > that's for, but I got to read the text at least. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kimber Gardner" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > The roter is driving me a little crazy. I don't seem to be able to get > the correct roter and so am having difficulty verifying what I've > written. > > Also the punctuation seems a bit cumbersome. > > K > > On 5/31/12, Sandy Finley <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am not sure yet what I'd suggest as an alternative but I think that > > rotor > > is a problem. Wonder if it would be easier to make TIB default to Insert > > Mode when you open it and then put the other choices in the menu. It's a > > lot > > easier to flick up than do that rotor motion. > > > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > > Of EWTEch Accessibility > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:55 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > > > We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other > > users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the > > right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so > > that > > the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you > > switch > > the three different modes using the right rotor. > > > > > > > > Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into > > TypeInBraille.. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. > > But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, > > select. > > Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor > or > > VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, > > language,... > > and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. > > Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the > > corrections. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jane" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but > > what > > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > > > >> Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > >> worked > >> with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as > I > >> thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > >> have been. > >> > >> First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of > >> it > >> as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > >> what > >> you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > >> A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two > >> dots > >> in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > >> he > >> describes A initially is: > >> 1 one-finger tap for the top row > >> One three-finger tap for the second row > >> One three-finger tap for the third. > >> > >> But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick > >> one > >> finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are > done > >> with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > >> B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > >> C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right > >> flick. > >> > >> It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > >> way > >> I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > >> tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > >> > >> Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > >> copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > >> e-mail > >> addresses or type in search boxes. > >> > >> > >> I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > >> > >> Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > >> > >> Sandy > >> > >> C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a > C) > >> followed by a one-finger flick right. From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: typing on the phone > >> > >> I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued > when > >> I > >> read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial > >> impression > >> is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > >> > >> Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > >> > >> Kimber > >> > >> On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Hi everybody, > >>> > >>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the > >>> developers of TypeInBraille app. > >>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > >>> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. > >>> > >>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > >>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > >>> > >>> Thank you > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers > >>> <[email protected] > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > >>>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > >>>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately > >>>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often > >>>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try > >>>> that when I've more time. > >>>> > >>>> Jeremiah > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > >>>>> we > >>>> have > >>>>> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > >>>>> amount > >>>> even > >>>>> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, > >>>> return, > >>>>> More numbers/letter/other, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting > >>>>> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate > >>>>> thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Jeremiah Rogers" <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the > >>>>> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain > >>>>> words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the > >>>>> hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, > >>>>> that's the only thing that seemed odd. > >>>>> > >>>>> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved > >>>>> the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten > >>>>> less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being > >>>>> when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just > >>>>> be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more > >>>>> accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this > >>>>> thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jeremiah Z. Rogers > >>>>> Mobile: 704-996-5334 > >>>>> Email: [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 5/19/12, Jane <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work > >>>>>> using > >>>> touch > >>>>>> typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jane > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, > >>>>>>> so hand over > >>>>>>> the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a > >>>>>>> bit, > >>>>>>> now > >>>>>>> doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. > >>>>>>> Once > >>>> you > >>>>>>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation > >>>>>>> to > >>>> undo > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> and learn it another. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RobH. > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: "Holly" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index > >>>>>>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using > >>>>>>> a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a > >>>>>>> computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my > >>>>>>> thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. 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