Fred, I Believe there is at least one company that makes a fork that will audibly provide the temp. The difference in this case is the IGrill will let you measure the temp remotely and accessibly wich is rather nice. I have not purchased one of these myself, but if you smoke any kind of meat I can see how this device would be very handy and especially if it is really cold outdoors. :) And someone was curious if you could use it in an oven and yes you can from what I was told.
On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Fred Olver wrote: > Gentlemen, There is a facility in San Fransisco which also makes an > accessible grilling thermometer. Can't remember it's name, but will look it > later and get back to you. It does not work with the I-devices, but looks to > be nearly as functional. > See attachment. > Fred Olver > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:36 AM > Subject: Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review > > > Scott, > > I would suggest you send your request and concerns about the app to the > company that develops iGrill. I know they are rather pleased to have made the > accessibility changes and may be willing to make a few more tweaks. I have > found in more cases than not developers who are willing to make corrections > for accessibility. I had considered the Igrill as well, but your review has > certainly peaked my interest again. I like to smoke meat as well and this > would be a nice solution and especially when we put turkey on for smoking > around THanks Giving. I might have to send you a private note to get your > thoughts on smokers since I just had to trash my old bullet smoker which gave > up the ghost. > Thanks for the great review. > > Scott > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I do a lot of grilling, and more important, slow smoking of ribs, brisket >> and pork and other great meats. (It's times like this I feel sorry for the >> vegetarians out there.) But, one of my biggest problems was getting a meet >> and grill temperature reading during the cooking process. About a year ago, >> I noticed a product called iGrill by iDevices Inc. The url is >> http://www.igrillinc.com/ that had a wireless bluetooth digital thermometer >> and iPHone/iPod/IPad application. I instantly downloaded the free app, to >> see how well it worked with voiceover, and was disappointed. Last week, I >> noticed an update for the app that included a bug fix bullet item reading >> "improved voiceover support". I downloaded the app and checked it out. >> Things looked very very promising, but I didn't have the hardware. That all >> changed with a recent UPS delivery. I'm very pleased with their progress, >> and feel it is a very useable solution with most features accessible, and >> I'm sharing my review here. >> >> I opened the box and it came with a base unit, two temperature probes, and >> batteries. Without reading a thing, I was able to install the batteries, >> and plug in the two probes. The front of the unit has three touch sensitive >> buttons. Not my first choice for a blind user, but they are dimpled and >> distinguishable. At this point I ran the iGrill application on the phone >> and listened to the getting started instructions. The three buttons are >> power and plus and minus The plus being above the minus and the power being >> to the left of those two. However, other than the power button, the device >> can be controlled entirely from the iOS application, so you really don't >> need to worry about the plus and minus buttons on the unit. >> >> >> >> >> As instructed by the online documentation accessible via the application, ,I >> pressed all three buttons to enable the device to pair, and sure enough, in >> Settings, General, Bluetooth, on my iPhone, the iGrill showed up and could >> be paired. >> . >> The key to this product is in the iGrill application, a free download from >> the Apple App Store. In the iGrill app, there are Four major button tabs. >> Cooking, Tools, INfo and Settings. >> >> The "cooking" button is where you have access to the remote temperature >> probe data. If the device is off an not paired, this section will read not >> connected. If the iGrill is on, you will see readable data on two probes >> with current temperature, user defined label, and alarm label. Flicking >> works perfectly and all data seems easily and quickly accessible. You can >> rename the two probe labels to anything you wish. Since I smoke, meat, I >> have one labeled as meat and the other as grill. Logical examples might be >> fish or chicken. The device comes with two probes designed for food. An >> ambient temperature probe for grill surface can be purchased separately. >> What I was stunned and pleasantly surprised to see, was that there are a >> slew of predefined temperatures for a range of foods that you can pick from >> that have the right temperature already defined. Want that tuna the right >> temp, pick tuna. Want a chicken done just right, select chicken. And, you >> may add your own items to the list. Basically, this is a Label with a >> target temperature. All totally accessible and properly labeled with >> voiceover tags. Now, what's nice for the smokers out there, you can also >> specify a temperature range. Smokers generally like to keep their grill >> temperature between 225 and 250, and for any probe, you can specify a target >> temperature or a range of temperatures. The target temp will alarm when the >> probe hits that temperature. The range temperature will alarm when the >> temperature goes above or below that range. Both the target and range >> temperatures work great. >> >> My only complaint on the cooking tab is that for both probes you have the >> option of facebook and twitter buttons. In my opinion, a waste of space. >> Just because you can integrate easily with social media via the iOS API >> doesn't mean you should. At the very least, I wish the buttons would go >> away of you don't have a twittter or facebook account. Maybe they'll read >> this review and make it a preference. I'll save my diatribe for the insanity >> of facebook for another post. >> >> >> The Tools tab has three items: Timers, Graph, and Globe. The Timer section >> allows you to create either count up or countdown timers. Unfortunately, the >> UI for this feature is not Voiceover friendly. You can create a number of >> named timers, but picking the time is done through a horrid number of button >> items. And the granularity is only to the minute, not second. Basically, >> you have to scroll through page after page of 60 buttons, one for each >> minute between 0 and 60, plus buttons for hours. It's the craziest UI I've >> seen for a time entry field. Popup picker items, or simple text field entry >> areas would have been much more useful as well as voice over friendly. I >> would say the Timer area is not practical for voiceover users, but the >> inclusion of a Timer at all, is a feature that goes above and beyond the >> core functionality of the product. >> >> The next item is Graph. This is not useful for voiceover users, since it >> shows the temperature over time visually. A great feature for smokers who >> can see, but you can export the data to a csv file and email it to yourself. >> But within the app, the raw table data is not available or voiceover >> friendly. >> >> The last item is Globe, and this is more social media from what I can tell, >> but I will not review it since I do not participate in those things for >> privacy and identity theft risk. >> >> >> The third main tab is Info. This has Links to video guides on youtube for >> the iGrill. There is a slight incompatibility with voiceover in that if you >> double click on the popup video item from a picker selection list, it does >> not launch. For some reason, you have to pick it and then close the picker >> with the done button, to have the application send you to youtube to see the >> video. This is where you can learn about the features of the iGrill as well >> as have access to phone and email support and the iGrill store. >> >> The last tab is Settings, where you can select your preferences regarding >> sounds for the alarms, how you wish to see the degrees in C or F. And >> finally see the version of the iGrill app itself. >> >> Overall, the iGrill by iDevices provides a totally accessible two >> thermometer probe unit that works with voiceover with your iOS device. It >> absolutely solved a problem that I have, and I suspect others out there >> might appreciate this product. The lack of usability for some features that >> are beyond the core features of the device seem less important. I was able >> to take the device from box to grill without any assistance. What I can't >> speak for now is the battery life or how the product will hold up over time. >> >> The list price of the device is $80 and the Ambient probe is an extra $20. I >> found mine at amazon.com for about $72. In my opinion, they should bundle a >> version with one food probe and one ambient probe for the smokers out there, >> but I think overall, the device is a useful product that works well with >> voiceover. I'd recommend this product for people who cook and want to know >> the temperature of their food and grill or oven. >> >> The bottomline: I like it and it works well with voiceover. I suggest you >> read sighted reviews on amazon for additional details, but the voiceover >> side is working well for me. The negatives include the lack of a physical >> on off switch and the use of touch sensative buttons on the device, and some >> extra features of the application are not voiceover friendly. >> >> Overall I think it's a great product and demonstrates how a mainstream >> product and iOS app that's coded with accessibility in mind can solve a >> problem for both sighted and blind user alike. >> >> >> Hope you found this post useful. >> --Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > <word 97-2003.doc> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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