the risk we take in buying off-the-shelf software that is accessible is that 
there will be some glitches in its operation. I should say, there might be more 
glitches in its operation than for a blindness-specific product. I think the 
blindness community has a tendency to expect the same results from 
off-the-shelf software as from blindness-oriented software. In my opinion, this 
is generally an unrealistic expectation. Yes, we can make sure a product is 
accessible, and give pointers to developers as the software progresses. 
However, Apple doesn't have the specific concentration or resources that some 
other blindness-oriented companies might have. We are a very small part of the 
general market, and with this in mind, I think Apple has done an exemplary and 
stellar job, and has set a trend for accessibility in mainstream products. I'm 
looking forward to more accessibility of Apple products in the future.

Teresa
On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I agree with your post except for the gratuitous Windows bashing. The
> sentiment from customers that their pet bugs aren't being addressed is
> human nature and has nothing to do with Windows. I hear the same thing
> from AIX, Ubuntu, Symbian, ..., users, as well as from users of almost
> all significantly complex user applications. It's also not restricted to
> the blind or accessibility short comings.
> 
> Ditto for accessibility concerns. Again this is human nature, and
> probably has more to do with the general discrimination faced by the
> blind than it does with Windows.
> 
> Again, I agree with the sentiment of your post, but I just think that
> the gratuitous Windows bashing doesn't add anything to your argument and
> just takes away from an otherwise good point.
> 
> On 11/06/12 21:52, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>> Our input is heard loud and clear and we are not being put on the back
>> burner you have blind people specifically working on the mac and iOS to
>> make it a awesome experience for us. We take things in stride and we
>> implement when possible. Blind people have worked extremely hard to make
>> this device 100% accessible to the best of our ability and we hate to
>> hear that back burner talk that comes from the Windows world. Trust me I
>> can vouch that accessibility is in the front of all of Apples product
>> from the Apple TV to the actual walk in store and we will work hard to
>> continue making amazing devices but stating that we were put on the back
>> burner sheds a negative connotation on what progress we have made for
>> all of us. I will say for a free screen reader we have done a hell of
>> allot more than those other guys and it cost you nothing.
>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Chuck Dean <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> In the mean time, the bugs that came with 5.0 and were not corrected
>>> with 5.1 are still plaguing the iPhone while voice over is turned on.
>>> I would have rather heard about a fix of the current problems.
>>> 
>>> We didn't make a big enough noise, so they can put us on the back burner.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 5:29:33 PM UTC-7, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Check the podcasts in iTunes.
>>> 
>>>    Hth,
>>>    Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Blinkin <[email protected]
>>>    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am pissed. I was in the hospital getting a kidney stone
>>>    removed and missed the whole dam thing.
>>>>   Does anyone know where I can find it online to listen to new?
>>>    Thanks!
>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Vanish Chopra wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Apple's WW DC has just begun! In the very first 10 minutes
>>>    Apple gave
>>>>> its strong commitment to the visually challenged! The show
>>>    still  on
>>>>> How ever I had to share this moment with you all! Best of luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Voice Converted to Text and Sent by my iPhone.
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