An excellent point David I finally took the decision to purchase an iPhone
after trying three different phones running Android and being told not to
even bother with the windows mobile phones by both a representative from A T
& T, and the tech help desk from Microsoft. Windows mobile 7.5 removed
support for even third party applications such as talks or mobile speak both
of which I have used in the past. As I stated in the earlier post give
credit where credit is do as a major company thus far Apple is the only one
to make the entire line of products with accessibility built in to the
product. Now if the argument is one of how perfect is that access well I
doubt anyone would say it is perfect, but please name me a product even
those products designed and marketed for blind or visually impaired
consumers that can make the claim of perfect access.  
Jesus Garcia

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 08:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apple's with us!!

Hello,

And how is this is different from Microsoft, Nokia, or other large
companies? In the case of Microsoft, Windows Mobile has become less and less
accessible over the years. Windows Phone Seven is completely inaccessible.
Nokia is in the process of switching all their phones over to Windows Phone
Seven.

As to your comments about amounts of time between upgrades, how does it
compare with Freedom Scientific? I believe FS still does one to two upgrades
per year. Do they always answer your concerns promptly?


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12/06/2012, at 13:43, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote:

> Although I doubt they have been, we don't have an answer if anythign 
> has been fixed or further broken in 6 yet, right? Or are you stating 
> it based on someone's experience with the 6 beta? They would not 
> likely mention bug fixes in an event or they would make a general 
> statement at best. As I state often though and feel I have good reason 
> to, Apple does not care enough and seemingly not at all most of the 
> time about fixing anything other than jailbreak holes. They leave 
> major functionality problems in their system for 3 months, 6 months, a 
> year, for ever. They just do not care. I have expressed my extreme 
> disatisfaction with that attitude in feedback on their site where you 
> can leave feedback. I was constructive about what I apreciate and to 
> the point about what I do not. I have done it numerous times. I have 
> expressed what is appropriate to direct to accessibility. They have 
> too much of a fan club that will buy any explative thing with the logo 
> on it no matter anything else and they have 70 billion dollars. They 
> see no reason to care about product quality apparently.
> 
> On 6/11/12, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In the mean time, the bugs that came with 5.0 and were not corrected 
>> with
>> 5.1 are still plaguing the iPhone while voice over is turned on.
>> I would have rather heard about a fix of the current problems.
>> 
>> We didn't make a big enough noise, so they can put us on the back burner.
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 5:29:33 PM UTC-7, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check the podcasts in iTunes.
>>> 
>>> Hth,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Blinkin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am pissed. I was in the hospital getting a kidney stone removed 
>>>> and
>>> missed the whole dam thing.
>>>>   Does anyone know where I can find it online to listen to new? Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Vanish Chopra wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Apple's WW DC has just begun! In the very first 10 minutes Apple 
>>>>> gave its strong commitment to the visually challenged! The show 
>>>>> still  on How ever I had to share this moment with you all! Best of
luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Voice Converted to Text and Sent by my iPhone.
>>>>> 
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