In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the jailbreak solution and it is a lot better than the Android fragmentation and that differentiation being forced upon you in the way they want it, not the way you might want it. With jailbreaking the "differentiation" the customizations are your choice from the increasing options available. The only problem with jailbreaking is that Apple trys not to allow it to happen and therefore it is always the result of a successful hack. It's not like Apple has become poor because of jailbreaking. Honestly I think they should stop taking any issue with it. I think they should leave teh door open to it to be done as it is currently. Even if they don't admit to it, they benefit from the jailbreak community and they do use those benefits. Most of their user base will never jailbreak. They don't have the technical knowledge and they don't care about anything it would do for them. I'm saying that is true for most of their user base assuming the majority of their user base simply use the interface they are presented with and what happens behind the sceens is entirely magical to them. The choice is there and nobody has anyone else's choice of customizations forced upon them. Finally, if you compare the jailbroken IOS world to Android, I think the Android world no longer has anything to hold over IOS at that point.
On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, the 4G versus 3G point makes a lot of sense to me. I'm still > surprised that Verizon would discourage someone from buying an iPhone if > they're asking for it though, but I can definitely see a Verizon > representative saying something like "You don't want an iPhone. you want > one of our 4G Androind phones." > > I dislike the changes some vendors/carriers make to Android that get in > the way of accessibility, but in general I'm more open to Android's > openness. Just like with PC's, and other products like mattresses, I can > understand where a distributor would want to differentiate their product > from all of the other products out there from the same manufacturer. Of > course, this leads to fragmentation and bloatware, but this closed > approach is also what leads to the popularity of jail breaking. IMHO, > Apple is going to have to meet with the carriers in the middle at some > point, and the Android ecosystem is going to have to deal with the > fragmentation issue. I've even heard that Samsung is going with more of > a closed model and won't be letting the carriers do as much branding as > they've been allowed to in the past. Of course, this doesn't keep > Samsung from doing what they want to Android. > > On 03/07/12 17:16, James Mannion wrote: >> Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes >> any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit >> obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They >> try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have >> heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to >> when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or >> less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can >> manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them. >> The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming >> discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with >> putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with >> Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will >> and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the >> carriers on that one. >> >> On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: >>> True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone >>> in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it >>> won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their >>> most popular phones. It was a big deal when AT&T lost their exclusivity >>> to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I >>> suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's >>> web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from >>> Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for >>> some reason. >>> >>> On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote: >>>> There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not >>>> available in certain areas. >>>> >>>> Dianne >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of paul and paula jordan >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone >>>> >>>> I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've >>>> heard >>>> other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones. Very >>>> curious! >>>> God bless! >>>> Paula and Babe >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of dan thompson >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: verizon and IPhone >>>> >>>> Hi All, I thought verizon >>>> >>>> >>>> supported the IPhone. However, locally I am hearing not. Does anyone >>>> know >>>> >>>> if verizon >>>> >>>> >>>> does indeed support the IPhone? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google >>>> Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5105 - Release Date: >>>> 07/02/12 >>>> 18:34:00 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google >>>> Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >> > > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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