Be careful with these only because one of the main packages that run these 
called Spire I think has not updated to work with IOS 5 and it says in Lydia 
that they are not going to.
        Just make sure to check everything out before you buy anything huh. 
I have had some friends buy the key for sir only to find out that they can't 
even run it because the package doesn't work.

        I sent the Podcast link out last night and it should be up on iTunes 
now for those of you who want to download it. Just search How to be Blind in 
downcast or whatever else you use to find it.
        have a great day!

Mike M
On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ben Blatchford wrote:

> I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is called 
> Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri on your 
> non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to type this 
> message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for
>> the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help.
>> I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there
>> simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just
>> doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has
>> at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information
>> offered will be much more accurate.
>> My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all
>> been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken
>> app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the
>> developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version.
>> An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when
>> vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and
>> from memory a fixed version was released the next day.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>> On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
>>> on AT&T, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
>>> tutorials I have read.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for
>>>> about 800 dollars.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of jeremy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Jail breaking
>>>> 
>>>> Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always
>>>> assumed
>>>> that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
>>>> Take care.
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>>> They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
>>>>> with any provider. So, if you have an AT&T phone and you unlock it,
>>>>> you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
>>>>> means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
>>>>> tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not
>>>>> synonymous.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>> Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
>>>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>>>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>>>>>> What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
>>>>>> that they were 2 separate things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Blinkin <[email protected]
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jail breaking
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will cover this also in my podcast.
>>>>>>    I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
>>>>>> jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
>>>>>> certainly easy to live with.
>>>>>>    The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
>>>>>> split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
>>>>>> and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
>>>>>> screen shot instead of locking.
>>>>>>    to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
>>>>>> button and it goes right to sleep.
>>>>>>    these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
>>>>>> Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my
>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>> Only jailbroken it.
>>>>>>    If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
>>>>>> I finish recording.
>>>>>>    cheers!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
>>>>>> really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
>>>>>> folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
>>>>>> directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
>>>>>> have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
>>>>>> about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
>>>>>> now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
>>>>>> subscribed more than 10 years ago.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
>>>>>> necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
>>>>>> breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
>>>>>> jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
>>>>>> unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
>>>>>> the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
>>>>>> change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
>>>>>> blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges
>>>>>> blind people to use contract service only.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
>>>>>> Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
>>>>>> configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
>>>>>> have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
>>>>>> to get started on this adventure in independence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kelly
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