That is exactly what I told them ha ha 
On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> With all due respect to your friends, they should have read about
> Spire before they paid for access to a Siri proxy. The author releases
> the product for free; third parties charge for access. And probably
> steel your information at the same time.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
> On 7/6/12, Blinkin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Be careful with these only because one of the main packages that run these
>> called Spire I think has not updated to work with IOS 5 and it says in Lydia
>> that they are not going to.
>>      Just make sure to check everything out before you buy anything huh.
>> I have had some friends buy the key for sir only to find out that they can't
>> even run it because the package doesn't work.
>> 
>>      I sent the Podcast link out last night and it should be up on iTunes now
>> for those of you who want to download it. Just search How to be Blind in
>> downcast or whatever else you use to find it.
>>      have a great day!
>> 
>> Mike M
>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ben Blatchford wrote:
>> 
>>> I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is
>>> called Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri
>>> on your non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to
>>> type this message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for
>>>> the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help.
>>>> I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there
>>>> simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just
>>>> doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has
>>>> at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information
>>>> offered will be much more accurate.
>>>> My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all
>>>> been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken
>>>> app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the
>>>> developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version.
>>>> An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when
>>>> vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and
>>>> from memory a fixed version was released the next day.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ben.
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
>>>>> on AT&T, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
>>>>> tutorials I have read.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kelly
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> about 800 dollars.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of jeremy
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jail breaking
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always
>>>>>> assumed
>>>>>> that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>>>>> They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
>>>>>>> with any provider. So, if you have an AT&T phone and you unlock it,
>>>>>>> you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
>>>>>>> means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
>>>>>>> tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> synonymous.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>>>> Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
>>>>>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>> What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> that they were 2 separate things.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Blinkin <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jail breaking
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I will cover this also in my podcast.
>>>>>>>>   I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
>>>>>>>> jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
>>>>>>>> certainly easy to live with.
>>>>>>>>   The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
>>>>>>>> split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
>>>>>>>> and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
>>>>>>>> screen shot instead of locking.
>>>>>>>>   to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
>>>>>>>> button and it goes right to sleep.
>>>>>>>>   these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
>>>>>>>> Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my
>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>> Only jailbroken it.
>>>>>>>>   If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
>>>>>>>> I finish recording.
>>>>>>>>   cheers!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
>>>>>>>> really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
>>>>>>>> folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
>>>>>>>> directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
>>>>>>>> have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
>>>>>>>> about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
>>>>>>>> subscribed more than 10 years ago.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
>>>>>>>> necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
>>>>>>>> breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
>>>>>>>> jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
>>>>>>>> unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He
>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>> the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
>>>>>>>> blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges
>>>>>>>> blind people to use contract service only.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
>>>>>>>> Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
>>>>>>>> configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract
>>>>>>>> provider?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't
>>>>>>>> wait
>>>>>>>> to get started on this adventure in independence.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kelly
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