I will reserve judgement until I get to Vancouver to an Apple Store and can 
play with one. That won't be until June so by then I will have had a chance to 
read lots of feedback from people on the list who will have bought one. 

Unfortunately our weather is not like Las Vegas, it's still winter here for the 
most part, snow is slowly going and we had a few days with temps in the low 
40's but mostly it's still below freezing at night and in the mid 30's during 
the day.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan J Paganelli
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 8.2

Siggard my friend, I see we are again in total agreement.  Like everybody else, 
sure I'd no doubt love to have one.  Wether or not I'd be willing to shell out 
that kind of money, it would require long hard thinking.  Needs don't always 
agree with wants! LOL!  Hope the weather up there where you are is as nice as 
it is here.




Regards,
Alan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOs 8.2

Hi Allen,

Jonathan has confirmed that the Apple watch does have full Voiceover support 
and if you Google this you can find some information about it. If you listen to 
the keynote apps for the Apple Watch are a big topic and there will be 
thousands in April when the watch is released and yes, people have to use the 
Apple Watch app on the iPhone to look for and get apps for the Apple Watch. 
Also, settings including accessibility settings are done via the Apple Watch 
app.

Whether you shell out $349 (the minimum for the smaller of the Apple Sport
Watch) is of course up to you and a decision based on whether you need an Apple 
Watch. I think for many the "need" factor is more a "want" and "it's cool" 
factor. Apple of course makes it sound like people definitely would want an 
Apple Watch which of course is normal. If you want a nice band for the watch 
that will cost you another $50 minimum and I think you can easily spend $100 or 
$150 for the fancier bands and the stainless steel watch, the one they call 
actually "Apple Watch" will set you back a minimum fo $550 for the smaller 
version (38mm) and $599 for the larger (42mm) version and it goes to $1,050 and 
$1,100 respectively. You could of course sell your motorhome and get the Gold 
version which starts at ten thousand *smile*.

Anyhow, Jonathan already said that he will buy one via his business since it is 
his business to be informed and write about it so if you subscribe to his 
Twitter feed or check his website you'll be able to read some good articles 
about how the accessibility is implemented and how it really works a little 
while after April 24. My guess is that it will work quite well, but I'm sure we 
will find out.


Regards,
Sieggard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan J Paganelli
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 8.2

The Apple Watch app gets added to the first page.  In the app is something 
interesting though.  They are going to have an apple watch app store.  I wonder 
what that's all about and, do we know if the Apple Watch will have Voice Over?  
Before I shell out $349 for a watch, I'd like to know about it's accessibility 
first and I recon you would too.




Regards,
Alan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Trea Abma
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 8.2

it said voiceover is more reliable, or something like that, and many other bug 
fixes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Nalda
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 8.2

I’d imagine iOS 8.2 is rolled out to accommodate the apple watch. Don’t know if 
there’ll by any accessibility updates on this iOS or not.

> On Mar 9, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Trea Abma <trea.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Installing iOs 8.2 right now.
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