I own an iPhone 6+ and an iPad air. I find the iPhone very useful but the iPad seems very large to me. I used a Mac for a few years and VoiceOver can also crap out and freeze. Apple does make nice hardware. But, I wouldn't go from the Mac to Windows especially if one is already familiar with it. Having owned and used a Mac book Pro 2009 for several years I found that it was both very useful and had many problems at times. The Mac OS does do things differently but it's not any better than Windows. It just does things differently. I just find that there seems to be a lot more software available for Windows that is accessible. However, there is no reason to badmouth Windows and the accessibility options available for it. As they say different strokes for different folks. The more things that are accessible for us the better including android and the many phones available on that platform. I'm not married to any particular company or operating system. If I find that another operating system is more accessible I'll use it.
Juan -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questions about transition from windows to a mac Well look at me. I've used 3 Windows PC's, used a 40-minute demo of Jaws with the first PC I bought, then bought Window-Eyes which I used for a few years, then went back to Jaws when I bought my 3rd PC, then used System Access for a bit before I decided I wanted to get a Mac because I was getting tired of piece of crap laptops freezing and crashing. So in my opinion, yeah, it's worth getting rid of Jaws and those other bloated Windows screenreaders because as David said, I get built-in accessibility out of the box without having to worry about my screenreader crapping out on me. And yeah, Windows is still popular in the work force but when I come home from dealing with crappy PC's at my work, I love working on my Mac and I thank god that Apple doesn't make the same mistakes as Microsoft. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jul 6, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote: My point was, if you have a lot invested in a windows pc and jaws or wineyes, is it worth chucking it for the mack. It’s my understanding that if you’re going to work in the world, most businesses still use windows. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 9:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questions about transition from windows to a mac The mac gives you accessibility out-of-the-box, updates to VoiceOver with every upgrade, no charge for the updates, AppleScript for scripting apps and access across the mac environment including VoiceOver, and a company which continually proves focus on accessibility. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jul 2015, at 12:26, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote: I would evaluate very carefully why you wish to change to a mack. What does a mack give you that you’re not getting with a windows PC. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questions about transition from windows to a mac If you run Windows on your Mac, you can use open book. However, you cannot use it on the Mac OS, as there is no open book for the Mac. Mery Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote: Not very, and see FS website On 7/7/2015 1:51 AM, Marie Lyons wrote: How complicated is it to transfer files? Can you use open book on a mac? Marie Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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