Hi Scott and all, 1.31 has fixed the Bluetooth issues with iOS devices that were found in 1.3. Amy
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi mary. > There were some significant issues with version 1.3 related to > bluetooth connectivity, but I have not tested 1.31 yet, which > apparently resolves most of these issues. I know they have beta > testers, I'm kind of surprised 1.3 hit at all with such issues. > Anyway, I'll report back once I have had time to put the new firmware > release through its paces. > > Scott > >> On 8/24/15, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Scott, >> I am under the impression that the latest release of firmware for the Verio >> cleared up some of the issues that it had been having. What do you find >> frustrating with the current release as compared with other displays? >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all. >>> I've had a Smart Beetle for the program I run for the past few weeks, >>> and it's a bit like the VarioUltra in the sense that it still needs >>> some work. Though with the current release of the VarioUltra firmware, >>> there is more frustration in using a VU as opposed to the Beetle for >>> me. >>> The only things I have found to cut back on lag have nothing to do >>> with the Smart Beetle specifically, but some VoiceOver settings that >>> you can change. I wrote a guide you can find at: >>> http://applevis.com/guides/accessories-bluetooth-braille-ios-ipad-iphone-ipod-touch-voiceover/3-ways-possibly-speed-your >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 8/22/15, '[email protected]' via VIPhone >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Haven't really tried 8-dot much but there's certainly a similar lag >>>> between >>>> >>>> transfer from the display's clipboard and the phone. >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Flor Lynch" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 2:00 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>> >>>> >>>> How does this issue fare - if it pertains - in eight-dot, or Computer, >>>> Braille? Does one still see the same time lag transferring between the >>>> display's clipboard, and the phone? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Andrew Lamanche >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:36 PM >>>> To: VIPhone >>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>> >>>> Hi Carol, >>>> >>>> I've written to one of the tech people at HIMS to let them know about >>>> the >>>> lag in writing and correcting text using Smart Beetle. I am not sure - >>>> nor >>>> do I hold my breath - whether they will take note of the problem. But I >>>> thought I'd let them know anyway because that's quite a point against >>>> buying >>>> their product which otherwise is very attractive. >>>> >>>> I will write to accessibility at Apple as I always do when I encounter >>>> the >>>> problem. I haven't done so so far because I wasn't sure whose patch it >>>> is. >>>> it's getting rather confusing who is responsible for what. >>>> >>>> Please keep my e-mail in your contacts and let me know what you've found >>>> out. And maybe if you wish, please send me your e-mail address for my >>>> records privately. I will keep in touch with respect to Smart Beetle. >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 20:05, '[email protected]' via VIPhone >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks so much for doing the test for me. >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't surprised by your results because we have Braille Sense >>>>> machines >>>>> >>>>> here and had experienced this lag. There are two reasons why I wanted >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> add the Smart Beetle, partily because it's that much smaller for taking >>>>> around and, secondly, because I was hoping the lag would have been >>>>> solved >>>>> >>>>> by the introduction of the Beetle. >>>>> >>>>> However, all is not yet lost because I think there probably will soon be >>>>> a >>>>> >>>>> new driver and, well, I'm just holding on and hoping that this will >>>>> solve >>>>> >>>>> at least a good part of the lagging. I have mentioned this to the >>>>> Accessability Team at >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> and I'd really advise you to do the same just as soon as you can. >>>>> >>>>> I'm also going to double check with HIMS that Apple are supposed to do >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> driver and not HIMS themselves. >>>>> >>>>> If you're not a very fast Braillist then all may well not be lost for >>>>> you, >>>>> >>>>> especially if you're prepared to make that cuppa whilst you wait for >>>>> the >>>>> translation. I feel fairly sure that the problem is the same whether >>>>> you're copying from the clipboard or writing in "real time", and it's a >>>>> lag in translation, I think. However, I'm not the expert, so we'll >>>>> just >>>>> go on telling them all what we know and what's important to us. >>>>> <Smiles> >>>>> >>>>> I will write to the Accessability Team again myself to highlight this >>>>> issue, in view of the recent introduction of Smart Beetle and what I've >>>>> gleaned so far, so then they can't be saying they didn't know all about >>>>> it. . . .. >>>>> >>>>> By the way, if we're rather pushing this on list and it's preferred we >>>>> take it off list then please, George or someone, tell us that this is >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> case. >>>>> >>>>> I know Jackie is interested, but would hate to bore everyone to death. >>>>> Anyway, folks, please feel free to use that delete key! <Smiles> >>>>> >>>>> Please keep in touch with me with any developments, Andrew, and I'll do >>>>> the same. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers and thanks for your input on this. >>>>> >>>>> Carol P >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:15 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Carol, >>>>> >>>>> I’m afraid I’ve got bad news. I’ve done the test as you’ve asked me >>>>> to >>>>> and there is quite a considerable lag in both instances: using the text >>>>> input straight into the edit field and using the clipboard method. >>>>> This >>>>> is disappointing. I’m not the fastest Braille writer and yet the lag >>>>> was >>>>> >>>>> definitely there even though the text was quite short. also, I found >>>>> editing a document quite a laborious task again because of the lag. It >>>>> took sometimes a few seconds for the cursor to route to the right >>>>> letter >>>>> and when inserting a letter or letters again it took a few seconds for >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> text to appear on the display. Very disappointed. >>>>> >>>>> One more thing I want to try is pairing the Smart Beetle with my iPhone >>>>> as >>>>> >>>>> a bluetooth keyboard and inputing the text from that mode to see >>>>> whether >>>>> it is the Braille mode that slows it down. Apparently it is possible >>>>> to >>>>> use combo mode with smart beetle, i.e. pairing it both as a Braille >>>>> display and as a bluetooth keyboard and then changing how you use it >>>>> using >>>>> >>>>> a shortcut key. I will have to read some more about it. In a way, I’m >>>>> anxious now that I made a wrong choice and yet I would have struggled >>>>> to >>>>> raise more finances for a more expensive product. Maybe not all is >>>>> lost >>>>> and maybe, just maybe, HIMS will improve their software, and maybe once >>>>> Apple incorporates Smart Beetle driver into its OS it will speed things >>>>> up. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry I have no better news. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>>> On 14 Aug 2015, at 22:58, '[email protected]' via VIPhone >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm! Wish S&S had their act together before my demo. I'd thought, >>>>>> maybe, the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an >>>>>> oversight in not correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it >>>>>> wasn't, >>>>>> >>>>>> I gather. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other reason that would make me really want this unit is if you >>>>>> could >>>>>> >>>>>> answer "Yes" definitely to one further point. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may not have done this, but you can use the clipboard setting to >>>>>> temporarily disable the keyboard so that you can write something in >>>>>> your >>>>>> >>>>>> own clipboard, so to speak. In this case, you write quite a bit of >>>>>> text, >>>>>> >>>>>> say, 300 words, then try sending to your iPhone. >>>>>> >>>>>> You get into the clipboard with backspace+enter+C and then send by >>>>>> pressing "Enter". >>>>>> >>>>>> In previous Sense products, I've found this to be too slow for me and >>>>>> even unreliable, possibly running out of memory ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd love to be able to use this feature, but quickly and not feel I >>>>>> wanted to drink a cuppa whilst waiting. I found it translated the >>>>>> text >>>>>> only as quickly as it did ifyou were brailling directly and were >>>>>> having >>>>>> to wait for it to be translated into the phone, and that wasn't what I >>>>>> wanted! >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you try this out, please, and let me know what you think. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks also for the instructions you gave below, which I'll keep for >>>>>> further reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carol P >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:15 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense because >>>>>> Apple has not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its >>>>>> operating systems. However, HIMS provide instructions on how to make >>>>>> Smart Beetle appear as BrailleSense. Once i took the initial steps to >>>>>> accomplish this on Smart Beetle itself, the pairing went smoothly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS. They >>>>>> are also included with the product on a separate Braille sheet. >>>>>> "Smart Beetle with Apple products. >>>>>> Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running >>>>>> Apple's iOS, including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac >>>>>> computers. >>>>>> At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart Beetle >>>>>> specific driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become necessary >>>>>> for >>>>>> >>>>>> us to do a work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle >>>>>> with >>>>>> i-devices and Mac computers. >>>>>> In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a >>>>>> Braille >>>>>> Sense notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. You >>>>>> can >>>>>> >>>>>> turn this emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name >>>>>> for >>>>>> >>>>>> the Bluetooth Serial port on the Smart Beetle. >>>>>> note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via >>>>>> Bluetooth >>>>>> >>>>>> when using a Mac computer. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following: >>>>>> 1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays >>>>>> "pairing BRL". >>>>>> 2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut "I" >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>> open "Information". >>>>>> 3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8). >>>>>> 4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name. >>>>>> Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled >>>>>> between >>>>>> "SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in >>>>>> it's >>>>>> >>>>>> normal configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when Apple >>>>>> introduces Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the >>>>>> Bluetooth name back to Smart Beetle and use it properly from that >>>>>> time." >>>>>> >>>>>> I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart >>>>>> Beetle from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was >>>>>> very >>>>>> good, I was able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my >>>>>> hands >>>>>> on it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to >>>>>> answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew >>>>>>> On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, '[email protected]' via >>>>>>> VIPhone >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andrew, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> using? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it seemed >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> be because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please tell me what you did etc? I did like the look and feel of it >>>>>>> very much and wanted one but ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carol P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:47 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Listers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display >>>>>>> produced >>>>>>> >>>>>>> by HIMS. Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> feel I'm gonna love it! it's small and the cells are nice. I've >>>>>>> already paired it with my iphone. And by the way, this Braille >>>>>>> display >>>>>>> >>>>>>> can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects. It >>>>>>> also has a USB connection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> >>>>>>> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart >>>>>>> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks. The pleasure of reading >>>>>>> quietly is intense! I'm delighted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in >>>>>>> order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience >>>>>>> too? >>>>>>> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille >>>>>>> display >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo >>>>>>> mode, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a >>>>>>> bluetooth >>>>>>> keyboard for more functionality. I can navigate home screens using >>>>>>> it, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message >>>>>>> using it, I can use the rotor. However, when in Mail, I couldn't find >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> way of deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering >>>>>>> whether there may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille >>>>>>> display could imitate. I just wonder if you could share what else >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can do with your refreshable Braille displays and iPhone? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks for any suggestions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andrew >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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