HI Amy. Yes, it appears the bluetooth issues have been fixed and that you can now assign channels to specific devices. Yay.
Scott On 8/25/15, Amy Ruell <aru...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Scott and all, > 1.31 has fixed the Bluetooth issues with iOS devices that were found in > 1.3. > Amy > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi mary. >> There were some significant issues with version 1.3 related to >> bluetooth connectivity, but I have not tested 1.31 yet, which >> apparently resolves most of these issues. I know they have beta >> testers, I'm kind of surprised 1.3 hit at all with such issues. >> Anyway, I'll report back once I have had time to put the new firmware >> release through its paces. >> >> Scott >> >>> On 8/24/15, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Scott, >>> I am under the impression that the latest release of firmware for the >>> Verio >>> cleared up some of the issues that it had been having. What do you find >>> frustrating with the current release as compared with other displays? >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> I've had a Smart Beetle for the program I run for the past few weeks, >>>> and it's a bit like the VarioUltra in the sense that it still needs >>>> some work. Though with the current release of the VarioUltra firmware, >>>> there is more frustration in using a VU as opposed to the Beetle for >>>> me. >>>> The only things I have found to cut back on lag have nothing to do >>>> with the Smart Beetle specifically, but some VoiceOver settings that >>>> you can change. I wrote a guide you can find at: >>>> http://applevis.com/guides/accessories-bluetooth-braille-ios-ipad-iphone-ipod-touch-voiceover/3-ways-possibly-speed-your >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 8/22/15, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone >>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> Haven't really tried 8-dot much but there's certainly a similar lag >>>>> between >>>>> >>>>> transfer from the display's clipboard and the phone. >>>>> >>>>> Carol P >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Flor Lynch" <florl...@iol.ie> >>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 2:00 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How does this issue fare - if it pertains - in eight-dot, or Computer, >>>>> Braille? Does one still see the same time lag transferring between the >>>>> display's clipboard, and the phone? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Andrew Lamanche >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:36 PM >>>>> To: VIPhone >>>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>> >>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>> >>>>> I've written to one of the tech people at HIMS to let them know about >>>>> the >>>>> lag in writing and correcting text using Smart Beetle. I am not sure >>>>> - >>>>> nor >>>>> do I hold my breath - whether they will take note of the problem. But >>>>> I >>>>> thought I'd let them know anyway because that's quite a point against >>>>> buying >>>>> their product which otherwise is very attractive. >>>>> >>>>> I will write to accessibility at Apple as I always do when I encounter >>>>> the >>>>> problem. I haven't done so so far because I wasn't sure whose patch >>>>> it >>>>> is. >>>>> it's getting rather confusing who is responsible for what. >>>>> >>>>> Please keep my e-mail in your contacts and let me know what you've >>>>> found >>>>> out. And maybe if you wish, please send me your e-mail address for my >>>>> records privately. I will keep in touch with respect to Smart Beetle. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 20:05, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via >>>>>> VIPhone >>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much for doing the test for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wasn't surprised by your results because we have Braille Sense >>>>>> machines >>>>>> >>>>>> here and had experienced this lag. There are two reasons why I >>>>>> wanted >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>> add the Smart Beetle, partily because it's that much smaller for >>>>>> taking >>>>>> around and, secondly, because I was hoping the lag would have been >>>>>> solved >>>>>> >>>>>> by the introduction of the Beetle. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, all is not yet lost because I think there probably will soon >>>>>> be >>>>>> a >>>>>> >>>>>> new driver and, well, I'm just holding on and hoping that this will >>>>>> solve >>>>>> >>>>>> at least a good part of the lagging. I have mentioned this to the >>>>>> Accessability Team at >>>>>> >>>>>> accessibil...@apple.com >>>>>> >>>>>> and I'd really advise you to do the same just as soon as you can. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm also going to double check with HIMS that Apple are supposed to >>>>>> do >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> driver and not HIMS themselves. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're not a very fast Braillist then all may well not be lost for >>>>>> you, >>>>>> >>>>>> especially if you're prepared to make that cuppa whilst you wait for >>>>>> the >>>>>> translation. I feel fairly sure that the problem is the same whether >>>>>> you're copying from the clipboard or writing in "real time", and it's >>>>>> a >>>>>> lag in translation, I think. However, I'm not the expert, so we'll >>>>>> just >>>>>> go on telling them all what we know and what's important to us. >>>>>> <Smiles> >>>>>> >>>>>> I will write to the Accessability Team again myself to highlight this >>>>>> issue, in view of the recent introduction of Smart Beetle and what >>>>>> I've >>>>>> gleaned so far, so then they can't be saying they didn't know all >>>>>> about >>>>>> it. . . .. >>>>>> >>>>>> By the way, if we're rather pushing this on list and it's preferred >>>>>> we >>>>>> take it off list then please, George or someone, tell us that this is >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> case. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know Jackie is interested, but would hate to bore everyone to >>>>>> death. >>>>>> Anyway, folks, please feel free to use that delete key! <Smiles> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please keep in touch with me with any developments, Andrew, and I'll >>>>>> do >>>>>> the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers and thanks for your input on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carol P >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" >>>>>> <ioani...@me.com> >>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:15 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Carol, >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m afraid I’ve got bad news. I’ve done the test as you’ve asked me >>>>>> to >>>>>> and there is quite a considerable lag in both instances: using the >>>>>> text >>>>>> input straight into the edit field and using the clipboard method. >>>>>> This >>>>>> is disappointing. I’m not the fastest Braille writer and yet the lag >>>>>> was >>>>>> >>>>>> definitely there even though the text was quite short. also, I found >>>>>> editing a document quite a laborious task again because of the lag. >>>>>> It >>>>>> took sometimes a few seconds for the cursor to route to the right >>>>>> letter >>>>>> and when inserting a letter or letters again it took a few seconds >>>>>> for >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> text to appear on the display. Very disappointed. >>>>>> >>>>>> One more thing I want to try is pairing the Smart Beetle with my >>>>>> iPhone >>>>>> as >>>>>> >>>>>> a bluetooth keyboard and inputing the text from that mode to see >>>>>> whether >>>>>> it is the Braille mode that slows it down. Apparently it is possible >>>>>> to >>>>>> use combo mode with smart beetle, i.e. pairing it both as a Braille >>>>>> display and as a bluetooth keyboard and then changing how you use it >>>>>> using >>>>>> >>>>>> a shortcut key. I will have to read some more about it. In a way, >>>>>> I’m >>>>>> anxious now that I made a wrong choice and yet I would have struggled >>>>>> to >>>>>> raise more finances for a more expensive product. Maybe not all is >>>>>> lost >>>>>> and maybe, just maybe, HIMS will improve their software, and maybe >>>>>> once >>>>>> Apple incorporates Smart Beetle driver into its OS it will speed >>>>>> things >>>>>> up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry I have no better news. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew >>>>>>> On 14 Aug 2015, at 22:58, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via >>>>>>> VIPhone >>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm! Wish S&S had their act together before my demo. I'd thought, >>>>>>> maybe, the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an >>>>>>> oversight in not correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it >>>>>>> wasn't, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I gather. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other reason that would make me really want this unit is if you >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> >>>>>>> answer "Yes" definitely to one further point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may not have done this, but you can use the clipboard setting to >>>>>>> temporarily disable the keyboard so that you can write something in >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> >>>>>>> own clipboard, so to speak. In this case, you write quite a bit of >>>>>>> text, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> say, 300 words, then try sending to your iPhone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You get into the clipboard with backspace+enter+C and then send by >>>>>>> pressing "Enter". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In previous Sense products, I've found this to be too slow for me >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> even unreliable, possibly running out of memory ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd love to be able to use this feature, but quickly and not feel I >>>>>>> wanted to drink a cuppa whilst waiting. I found it translated the >>>>>>> text >>>>>>> only as quickly as it did ifyou were brailling directly and were >>>>>>> having >>>>>>> to wait for it to be translated into the phone, and that wasn't what >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> wanted! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you try this out, please, and let me know what you think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks also for the instructions you gave below, which I'll keep for >>>>>>> further reference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carol P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" >>>>>>> <ioani...@me.com> >>>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:15 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> Apple has not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its >>>>>>> operating systems. However, HIMS provide instructions on how to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> Smart Beetle appear as BrailleSense. Once i took the initial steps >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> accomplish this on Smart Beetle itself, the pairing went smoothly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> are also included with the product on a separate Braille sheet. >>>>>>> "Smart Beetle with Apple products. >>>>>>> Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running >>>>>>> Apple's iOS, including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac >>>>>>> computers. >>>>>>> At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart >>>>>>> Beetle >>>>>>> specific driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become >>>>>>> necessary >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >>>>>>> us to do a work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> i-devices and Mac computers. >>>>>>> In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a >>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>> Sense notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. >>>>>>> You >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> >>>>>>> turn this emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the Bluetooth Serial port on the Smart Beetle. >>>>>>> note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via >>>>>>> Bluetooth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> when using a Mac computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following: >>>>>>> 1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays >>>>>>> "pairing BRL". >>>>>>> 2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut >>>>>>> "I" >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> open "Information". >>>>>>> 3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8). >>>>>>> 4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name. >>>>>>> Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled >>>>>>> between >>>>>>> "SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> normal configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when >>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>> introduces Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the >>>>>>> Bluetooth name back to Smart Beetle and use it properly from that >>>>>>> time." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart >>>>>>> Beetle from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> good, I was able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my >>>>>>> hands >>>>>>> on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to >>>>>>> answer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andrew >>>>>>>> On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via >>>>>>>> VIPhone >>>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andrew, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> using? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it >>>>>>>> seemed >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> be because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please tell me what you did etc? I did like the look and feel of >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> very much and wanted one but ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carol P >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lamanche" >>>>>>>> <ioani...@me.com> >>>>>>>> To: "VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Cc: <macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:47 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Listers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display >>>>>>>> produced >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> by HIMS. Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the >>>>>>>> UK, >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> feel I'm gonna love it! it's small and the cells are nice. I've >>>>>>>> already paired it with my iphone. And by the way, this Braille >>>>>>>> display >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> also has a USB connection. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using >>>>>>>> Smart >>>>>>>> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks. The pleasure of reading >>>>>>>> quietly is intense! I'm delighted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience >>>>>>>> too? >>>>>>>> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille >>>>>>>> display >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo >>>>>>>> mode, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a >>>>>>>> bluetooth >>>>>>>> keyboard for more functionality. I can navigate home screens using >>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message >>>>>>>> using it, I can use the rotor. However, when in Mail, I couldn't >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> way of deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering >>>>>>>> whether there may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that >>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>> display could imitate. 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