Would you believe I have a full size 102 key bluetooth keyboard with terraced 
rows of keys with quite a long clicky travel.  Love 
the feel of it, but dubious portability, though it does fold in half TG and 
goes in a cloth pouch.

BobH.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:25 AM
Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?


Another reason not to have a Macbook, or to have to use a USB keyboard, which 
defeats the idea of having the portability.  Isn't 
technology fun?

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

Well someone on another list just told me that you cannot turn off the touchpad 
on a MacBook. That is disgusting.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Rose,
> Try Function F5.  That is how both my Work Del and my home Toshiba now turn 
> off the touch pad.
> I find I often have to turn it off again after rebooting, but at least I can 
> turn it off.
>
> I hope that works.  I hate touchpads.
>
> Richard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rose Combs
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
>
> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a 
> wireless keyboard.  However, if I were to carry it around with me not an 
> option and I am constantly hitting the touch pad on a 
> Lenovo laptop and sending it to who knows where, I hate how far the keyboard 
> is back, makes me lean forward and I keep resting the 
> palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba my husband had, very 
> old, I could turn that off with function key 9, 
> can't seem to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control 
> panel, maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.
>
> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last 
> spring when I bought the device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me 
> wrong, however, in the past nearly 40 years I have 
> typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe a couple of times a week or 
> less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I 
> use the Focus minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, 
> transitioning to a new company not by my choice, then 
> ill, was terminated and am now retired earlier than I wished to be.
>
> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at
> roseco...@q.com
>
> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for 
> years, loved it but, probably will need something I can use where others can 
> see what is happening is the reason I was asked about 
> a laptop or I device.  My iPad is wifi only and bought just at the end of its 
> cycle in early September 2013 as a present after I 
> taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him not me.  He bought 
> me a mini after that and just before new 
> announcements were made.  First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't 
> going anywhere and his was donated to a friend who 
> spent months on a ventilator unable to talk but very much mentally with it.  
> I helped set it up so it could talk for him after my 
> husband passed a year ago in the spring.
> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via 
> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to 
> carry.
> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, 
> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so 
> I could load it easier it would be my choice.
>
> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
> card these days.  Never truly worked well in that 
> regard anyway.  However, makes it useless as an e-mail client also and 
> probably would not open the documents I will be sent.
> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
> longer friendly.
>
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
>
> I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming 
> meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with 
> complete confidence and competence. However, that laptop is long since gone 
> and buried.
> At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard and 
> pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in 
> iOS 9, choosing among apps such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. 
> Or I could borrow my husbands 11 inch MacBook air, 
> with which I am not that familiar, and use something like text at it. Neither 
> prospect is exciting. I'm looking for something that 
> is going to be reliable and foolproof. As in me being a fool and screwing up 
> their minutes. What do people think would be the 
> easiest thing to do the most foolproof thing? This is, assuming I don't get 
> the Bluetooth bug that wipes out my iPad? Most about 
> using the MacBook is hitting that darned oversized touchpad and ending up 
> somewhere where I really don't want to be and not having 
> a clue how to get back where I need to be in the text writing app.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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