Well, I guess I'll have to borrow my husband's MacBook and see. That would certainly be different from the behavior I experience on my Mac Mini if I touch my trackpad, a magic trackpad, with voiceover running. Focus can move all over the place. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:01 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That's true, it does disable trackpad commander. If VoiceOver is > running though, and trackpad commander is turned off, I don't think > that anything would happen with the focus of the VoiceOver cursor. I > may be wrong. I am a fairly new Mac user but in my limited experience, > if trackpad commander was off then my focus did not jump around if I > touch the trackpad while typing. > > Wayne > >> On 9/22/15, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Wayne, >> Doesn't that disable trackpad commander, a voice over feature? Not the >> trackpad itself. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 6:24 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> For what it's worth, you can disable the trackpad on a MacBook by >>> holding the VO keys (Control and Option) and then turning two fingers >>> in the rodar gesture toward the left on the trackpad or counter >>> clockwise. This will disable the trackpad and prevent your focus from >>> jumping around if you touch the touchpad. The first few times I used >>> Text Edit on my MacBook Pro, I turned off the trackpad using this >>> gesture. I ran into the same issue you had with the trackpad. I >>> haven't had to type for a long period on the MacBook yet, but I do >>> like its keyboard and can see myself using it several hours at a >>> stretch. >>> >>> Wayne >>> >>>> On 9/22/15, Sherrie <nanagoose4...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I think if I had to take notes I would record the meeting and then >>>> transcribe it later at home. I have List Recorder and like it. >>>> Just a thought. >>>> Sherrie >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:02 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad? >>>> >>>> This is my point, a regular usb keyboard, and it is still on about the >>>> most >>>> >>>> efficient way to type freely as secretary at a meeting. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> >>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:48 PM >>>> Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad? >>>> >>>> >>>> What about a regular 101 key USB keyboard? Sorry, Now I have likely made >>>> this off topic. >>>> >>>> Neal >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Rose Combs >>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:22 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad? >>>> >>>> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they >>>> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a >>>> wireless keyboard. However, if I were to carry it around with me not an >>>> option and I am constantly hitting the touch pad on a >>>> Lenovo laptop and sending it to who knows where, I hate how far the >>>> keyboard >>>> >>>> is back, makes me lean forward and I keep resting the >>>> palm of either hand on the stupid thing, On the Toshiba my husband had, >>>> very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't >>>> seem to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control >>>> panel, maybe it can be done, but so far not by me. >>>> >>>> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn >>>> the >>>> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last >>>> spring when I bought the device and braille. I love braille, don't get >>>> me >>>> wrong, however, in the past nearly 40 years I have typed >>>> 8 hours or more a day, brailed just maybe a couple of times a week or >>>> less. >>>> >>>> I once was very fast but now am not, especially on >>>> tiny keys on a braille display. Well have to devote time to this instead >>>> of >>>> >>>> other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus >>>> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, >>>> transitioning >>>> to a new company not by my choice, then ill, was >>>> terminated and am now retired earlier than I wished to be. >>>> >>>> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at >>>> roseco...@q.com >>>> >>>> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little >>>> keys >>>> are going to be my downfall. I used a Braille note for >>>> years, loved it but, probably will need something I can use where others >>>> can >>>> >>>> see what is happening is the reason I was asked about a >>>> laptop or I device. My iPad is wifi only and bought just at the end of >>>> its >>>> >>>> cycle in early September 2013 as a present after I >>>> taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him not me. He >>>> bought >>>> >>>> me a mini after that and just before new announcements >>>> were made. First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going >>>> anywhere >>>> >>>> and his was donated to a friend who spent months on a >>>> ventilator unable to talk but very much mentally with it. I helped set >>>> it >>>> up so it could talk for him after my husband passed a >>>> year ago in the spring. >>>> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via >>>> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to >>>> carry. >>>> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was >>>> doing, >>>> >>>> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so I >>>> could load it easier it would be my choice. >>>> >>>> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a >>>> network >>>> >>>> card these days. Never truly worked well in that regard >>>> anyway. However, makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably >>>> would not open the documents I will be sent. >>>> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are >>>> no >>>> longer friendly. >>>> >>>> Rose Combs >>>> roseco...@q.com >>>> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the >>>> memory! >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad? >>>> >>>> I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming >>>> meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with >>>> complete confidence and competence. However, that laptop is long since >>>> gone >>>> >>>> and buried. >>>> At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth >>>> keyboard >>>> and pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS >>>> 9, choosing among apps such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. >>>> Or I >>>> >>>> could borrow my husbands 11 inch MacBook air, with >>>> which I am not that familiar, and use something like text at it. Neither >>>> prospect is exciting. I'm looking for something that is >>>> going to be reliable and foolproof. As in me being a fool and screwing >>>> up >>>> their minutes. What do people think would be the easiest >>>> thing to do the most foolproof thing? This is, assuming I don't get the >>>> Bluetooth bug that wipes out my iPad? 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