Hi Sieghard,
I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the difference
in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you well said, is
not very accessible at all except for basic functions.
For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it?
Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in time,
I would like to modernise and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 2
medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of space.
I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so that the
TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. Would it go
into the Sonos Playbar?
A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working
very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then use
it later on as you are using yours? My bedroom is very small so I’m
wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.
I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and
listen.
Ron & Danvers
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos
Hi Ron,
What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system is
and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 which at
the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did exactly what
you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear in-ceiling
speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving in and I
ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers and I have
never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two front speakers
are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver sitting on it and I
am now using that Connect player at my store and there is a lot less cable.
Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully accessible whereas my
Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs and basic functions, but
a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible.
If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d say
go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a
Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround.
Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you
really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that
the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 jumped
up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo mode for
less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that sells Sonos
and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a set of Play 3 to
decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the bedroom you
wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you would have to
re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.
Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able to
buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few years.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos
Hi you two Sonos Experts,
I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers and
woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first get
a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos speaker
or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily be brought
on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker.
What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a
little off.
Ron & Danvers
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos
Hi Jonathan,
First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it
definitely is awesome.
As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup
and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But
considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between
$300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who
wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it
also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution.
When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then
were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had
those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers.
The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it
then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am
convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to
release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a
soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering that
I am not the only one asking for it. I once talked to a Sonos customer service
guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a pretty
regular bases and you find stuff like “Dear Sonos, please make me headphones! |
iMore” when you Google around for it.
What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my
Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they
still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. It’s
nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then improved over
time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a bit of a flop
was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S days. It was I
think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which acted as a
stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still have mine but of
course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I want to invest in a
30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my iPhone connected I have a
RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp in my bedroom and I just plug
it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay since I have an Airport Express
connected to one of my other Connect Amp units to add Airplay to my Sonos
system. That, by the way, would be one of my other very few items of criticism,
I think at least the new players that were releaed in the last few years should
have built-in Airplay compatibility and all 3 portable players, the Play 1, 3
and 5 should have a 3.5mm headphone jack.
OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos
While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced
any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect.
You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged
into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You
can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we
have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround
sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so
I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily
be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.
Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since
iPhone. I love this stuff.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Hi Marie,
Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can
say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know they
really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act as a
separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 2 or 3
years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course there are
many situations where one would want to listen privately with a headset and
considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the last few
years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I think there
could be either one of two products or both:
one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of
course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend $500
to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I think a
product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price point and
one where they could really make it sound awesome.
The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would
be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable
battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the product
that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and it would
allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a cheap $20
pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably
about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or
$500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos were to make
only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot more
flexibility with headsets users already own.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Marie
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos
I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model.
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.
Marie
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