Can’t say anything more than “ditto”. Excited for it to go out of beta. > On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:40, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Actually the NFB had done nothing for the accessibility of iOS 10. Apple was > devoted to improving the accessibility of iOS 10 from the very first betas. > The first betas happened before the NFB resolutions even were passed. Apple > will do what Apple wants to do. This cycle of betas were focused on improving > the entire usability of the operating system, and not just accessibility. I > dod agree with you and this is one of the most accessible, and stable > versions of iOS that I have ever used. > > Ed >> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Mário Navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> NFB forever! >> thank you for all you do for us ... >> the ios 10 public beta 6, is very stable and have much less issues than in >> previous betas systems. >> I'm testing the cycle of ios 10 betas and I can tell you had never before >> tested a system as so stable for accessibility. >> this is the system that will have less issues when pulls out the official >> release. >> thanks to the NFB. >> yes, it was because of this resolution, that today we have a beta cycle much >> more stable for VO. >> for those who criticized the NFB for calling the attention of the apple with >> this resolution, now can bite the tongue for all the criticism and insults >> that you made the NFB. >> yes, on the applevis website. >> and some here in the group. >> you do not deserve what NFB does for you. >> CONGRATULATIONS NFB! >> long life to NFB! >> >> cheers. >> >> Às 14:44 de 25/08/2016, Roger Frischenmeyer escreveu: >>> I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not >>> testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the voiceover >>> software, yet no resolution called on any other technology company to even >>> work to make their product. Fully accessible. I wonder if there is a little >>> pettiness with the national Federation of the blind when it comes to Apple >>> and truthfully, it makes me question the credibility of that organization >>> when it comes to software and these topics. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016 >>>> convention. As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion >>>> about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love >>>> what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement. >>>> >>>> https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> Dacia >>>> >>>> On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have >>>>> that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is >>>>> more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the >>>>> entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of >>>>> the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and >>>>> publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard. >>>>> For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so >>>>> I can make up my own mind. >>>>> >>>>> On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote: >>>>>> I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB >>>>>> convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate prioritization to >>>>>> accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass despite >>>>>> far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant surprise >>>>>> in iOS 9.3.4. >>>>>> >>>>>> I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who is >>>>>> an >>>>>> avowed Apple basher. >>>>>> >>>>>> I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any >>>>>> merit >>>>>> whatsoever. It certainly causes me to have very little regard for NFB >>>>>> and >>>>>> that organization’s leadership. >>>>>> >>>>>> This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the >>>>>> object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming grounds >>>>>> (usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object >>>>>> meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were >>>>>> determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then occupy >>>>>> that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor the author >>>>>> of that article would ever possibly occupy the “high ground” on this >>>>>> particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all this >>>>>> “Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder! >>>>>> **************** >>>>>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland >>>>>> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty >>>>>> sure they are going to have some pretty annoying virtues." >>>>>> - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)-- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if >>>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>>>> or >>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 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