Well, I think we're talking about more than just a few inconveniences. I was one of those who was hit with that bug where VoiceOver would hang almost every time I got a call and I had to hard reset my phone. Sure people who weren't hit by this bug can say it's no big deal, but IMHO, that's only true if you don't use your iPhone to make phone calls. I still have that bug where VoiceOver freezes up when I reply to an email message. Sure, I can squash the home button six times to work around this, but when I was on vacation last week, and the only way I could check on my email back at the office was with my iPhone, I sure regretted not just biting the bullet and schlepping my laptop around with me on vacation just so I could reply to my work emails. Fortunately, I don't have the voice dictation issue some are talking about, but I can empathize with anyone who isn't able to use such a key feature of their high end smart phone.

I agree nothing is perfect, but inconveniences using your smart phone is one thing and bugs that keep you from using key features is a horse of another color. I also don't think any company should get a pass just because they have a lot of products or a lot to do. Apple chose to be in the markets their in and put out the products they do. They also sell high end devices. Apple is also a very wealthy company. If they need to put more resources into improving quality then they could thin out their product line a bit. I'm not saying they have to do that, but I'm also not feeling sorry for Apple because they have so many products making them so much money.

On 25/08/16 09:08, Devin Prater wrote:
I now use Linux on my Apple computer. I also have an Android tablet, but
that's more for seeing if I want my nexp phone to be Android. I have
nothing against the people at Apple, I just would rather have more
control and freedom on my devices, and know that there are plenty people
where that doesn't matter, but I'm just slightly more techie than
Apfle's regular customer. That being said, I don't find Apple's little
bugs to be that bad. Sure, you may need headphones when dictating, and
no, that's not fair at all, but they're a huge company with too much on
their plate as it is, with 4 operating systems, several products. I
don't expect any system to be perfect.

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On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer
<thejayhawk...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:thejayhawk...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not
testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the
voiceover software, yet no resolution called on any other technology
company to even work to make their product. Fully accessible. I wonder
if there is a little pettiness with the national Federation of the
blind when it comes to Apple and truthfully, it makes me question the
credibility of that organization when it comes to software and these
topics.

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On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com
<mailto:dacia.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

thanks,

Dacia

On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com
<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have
that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is
more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of
the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so
I can make up my own mind.

On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate
prioritization to
accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass despite
far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.

Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant
surprise
in iOS 9.3.4.

I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse
who is an
avowed Apple basher.

I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without
any merit
whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard for
NFB and
that organization’s leadership.

This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the
object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming grounds
(usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object
meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were
determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then occupy
that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor the
author
of that article would ever possibly occupy  the “high ground” on this
particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all this
“Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!
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