I probably shouldn't go there, but I use both IOS and Android, and I definitely wouldn't characterize Android as an old rickety house.

On 25/08/16 13:34, Devin Prater wrote:
Yeah, it'll be exciting once apps release updates designed for it, and
maybe I'll be surprised in a good way. I sure hope so. But until then,
Linux will stay on my Mac, and I'll continue trying to figure out how
one lives within the open fields of Android, where you're given an old
rickedy house, but have the option of making it better.

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On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:29 PM, christopher hallsworth
<challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Can’t say anything more than “ditto”. Excited for it to go out of beta.
On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:40, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com
<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Actually the NFB had done nothing for the accessibility of iOS 10.
Apple was devoted to improving the accessibility of iOS 10 from the
very first betas. The first betas happened before the NFB resolutions
even were passed. Apple will do what Apple wants to do. This cycle of
betas were focused on improving the entire usability of the operating
system, and not just accessibility. I dod agree with you and this is
one of the most accessible, and stable versions of iOS that I have
ever used.

Ed
On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Mário Navarro <mario....@gmail.com
<mailto:mario....@gmail.com>> wrote:



NFB forever!
thank you for all you do for us ...
the ios 10 public beta 6, is very stable and have much less issues
than in previous betas systems.
I'm testing the cycle of ios 10  betas and I can tell you had never
before tested a system as so stable for accessibility.
this is the system that will have less issues when pulls out  the
official release.
thanks to the NFB.
yes, it was because of this resolution, that today we have a beta
cycle much more stable for VO.
for those who criticized the NFB for calling the attention of the
apple with this resolution,  now can bite the tongue for all the
criticism and insults that you made the NFB.
yes, on the applevis website.
and some here in the group.
you do not deserve what NFB does for you.
CONGRATULATIONS NFB!
long life to NFB!

cheers.

Às 14:44 de 25/08/2016, Roger Frischenmeyer escreveu:
I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for
not testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the
voiceover software, yet no resolution called on any other
technology company to even work to make their product. Fully
accessible. I wonder if there is a little pettiness with the
national Federation of the blind when it comes to Apple and
truthfully, it makes me question the credibility of that
organization when it comes to software and these topics.

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On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com
<mailto:dacia.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

thanks,

Dacia

On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com
<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than
I have
that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and
this is
more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue,
all of
the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone
heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was
passed so
I can make up my own mind.

On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate
prioritization to
accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass
despite
far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.

Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant
surprise
in iOS 9.3.4.

I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse
who is an
avowed Apple basher.

I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without
any merit
whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard
for NFB and
that organization’s leadership.

This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain”
where the
object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming
grounds
(usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the
object
meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were
determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then
occupy
that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor
the author
of that article would ever possibly occupy  the “high ground” on
this
particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all
this
“Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!
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