Yea!!! Thanks for the heads up! Something to look forward to. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> From what I have seen posted in other places, in iOS10 voiceover will echo 
> typing with contracted braille. It is something I too have been wanting 
> especially since BSI supports UEB.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On 8/25/2016 4:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
>> OK, I guess you just have to abandon the Third Party keyboard and use the 
>> original keyboard, pasting to whatever item you want. I would do that rather 
>> than not having mBraille at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25/08/2016 01:31, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 
>>> 3rd party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I 
>>> try typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other 
>>> words, it consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my 
>>> phone or if my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it 
>>> would work on one phone, it would work on another, but obviously not.
>>> 
>>> I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to 
>>> where it spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about 
>>> another keyboard again! Smile!
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third 
>>>> Party keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, 
>>>> were better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see 
>>>> what never crashes and avoid those that do!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>>>>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>>>>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear 
>>>>> Harri's thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and 
>>>>> everything, so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have 
>>>>> the regular MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen 
>>>>> input. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ann
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>>>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text 
>>>>>> and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to 
>>>>>> use the onboard one at that time for example but the option to select 
>>>>>> another keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is 
>>>>>> that then, as soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very 
>>>>>> briefly and I don't actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes 
>>>>>> it does have to kick in!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>>>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just 
>>>>>> writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that 
>>>>>> phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>>>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>>>>> Third Party option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
>>>>>> problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things 
>>>>>> to consider.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope it might help a little.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may 
>>>>>> be that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he 
>>>>>> had, he'd almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to 
>>>>>> see all messages these days, I don't think.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain 
>>>>>> ticking as long as it can ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to 
>>>>>>> shop and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I 
>>>>>>> purchased the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, 
>>>>>>> no matter what I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with 
>>>>>>> email...the results are the same. The rest of the MBraille app works 
>>>>>>> just fine. As for the 3rd party keyboard, it will let me begin typing 
>>>>>>> but I never know for how long. Sometimes it's a few characters and 
>>>>>>> sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without warning it is gone, 
>>>>>>> taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this keyboard 
>>>>>>> seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
>>>>>>>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
>>>>>>>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
>>>>>>>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
>>>>>>>> answer for you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing 
>>>>>>>>> on my iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and 
>>>>>>>>> reinstalled it numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the 
>>>>>>>>> latest version of the MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I 
>>>>>>>>> have written to the MBraille list but haven't heard anything from 
>>>>>>>>> them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if anyone here had any 
>>>>>>>>> suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give 
>>>>>>>>> me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
>>>>>>>>> keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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