This does sound a bit like Gmail. I've heard people rave about the Gmail app, but I like to work with both threads and individual messages at the same time. For example, I may want to file one message in a thread to a folder and delete the rest. I've never gotten the hang of doing this with the Gmail app on either IOS or Android or even the web interface for that matter. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I just haven't figured out how to do it quickly, easily and with confidence.

I like the Mail app as it is now on IOS 9 because it's obvious when I'm taking an action on an individual message or an entire thread. For me personally, I do find it a bit tedious though that I have to go into a new page to look at the messages in that particular thread and then back out of that page when I want to get back to my folder list. The focus always hasn't been good about taking me back to the place I was at before either.

I do like how Thunderbird handles threads on my Linux box and Aquamail does on my Android device. I double tap the message and the thread gets expanded or collapsed. It's easy to tell when I'm working on the thread or looking at or taking an action on just one particular message.

It sounds like this new mail client in IOS 10 will give me what I'm looking for. I'm not sure if or when I'll have an iPhone that'll be able to run IOS 10 though. It's too bad you can't upgrade just the Mail app so that those of us on IOS 9 could still take advantage of some of these enhancements.

On 28/08/16 14:06, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Correct, in the first few betas this “Messages” item on the rotor wasn’t
working so well yet so for a while I turned off threaded messages in
Mail settings and all messages were separate messages. I’m not sure how
to describe it, but while it keeps conversations together and with the
rotor turned to Messages it’s super easy to flick up and down browsing
through the messages, they are still separate messages and not part of
one big message. You can still delete individual messages in a
conversation which wouldn’t be possible if they were all lumped into one
message.



Regards,

Sieghard



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Running iOS 10 beta 6 turning it off in mail settings gives me every
message as a separate message in a thread/conversation.



Richard





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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
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That doesn't sound very good, unless I'm misunderstanding it. It sounds
kind of like what happens when you get a digest. You know, somebody
replies to a message that they got as part of a digest and doesn't
delete everything. So you get this great long mass. I can't believe
that's what they're doing. Sighted people would hate that. I guess we'll
all just have to wait and see what the final thing looks like.
Mary


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On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com
<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi!

    I believe we misunderstood somewhere along the way xD.

    I know about threaded view, it is available since iOS 5 or something
    but this is a threaded view for message list and it can be turned on
    or off.

    iOS 10 is bringing several messages grouping in the single
    conversation as seen in Gmail app which I really don't want and,
    according to Tamas Geczy's article on CBT site it can't be turned off.

    Here's the quotation on it:



    A new threaded view for messages places all of the conversation as
    though it were one long message. This adds a new rotor option:
    Message. When it is selected, swiping down with VoiceOver will move
    you to the next message in the mail document. You can turn off
    threading, but not the behavior, or having them be organized in one
    giant e-mail message rather than individual ones in a conversation
    list within the subject. This might change, as sometimes in-line
    message replies are not detected by the app — so you have to scroll
    through older messages with greater than signs. In other cases, a
    button allows you to expand the older messages. In my experience,
    this is hit or miss, though with Gmail it recognized that the quoted
    thread messages should be hidden most of the time



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        I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation
        threading in iOS 10.



        Richard



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        On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com
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            Hi!

            There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about
            what's new in incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says
            message view in Mail app is not separated by message as it
            was till now. Now it is more like conversation view similar
            to text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor
            called "message" which will enable you to switch between
            messages in conversation.

            I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate
            messages and that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even
            like threads and I'm using it only for some mail groups I'm
            subscribed to.



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                What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround
                the mail app's interface in iOS 10?





                Thanks,

                Ari


                On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić
                <razbij...@gmail.com <mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                    Hi!

                    @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod
                    Touch or iPad, it would probably work on all iOS
                    devices.

                    @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's
                    gonna be a large turnaround in iOS 10 with its
                    interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used
                    Aquamail on some Android devices and I like its
                    options, features and tones of settings for fine
                    tuning its operativity.

                    I agree Android approach to navigating and editing
                    is harder to handle than iOS but as you correctly
                    said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app
                    itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better
                    results with Google Speech Input or whatever is it
                    called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for
                    my native language.

                    I can manage multiple messages on both apps in
                    pretty similar way so I don't know did you played
                    with Aquamail settins?

                    @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.



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                        I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other 
thing I prefer about mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't 
specific to the mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with 
editible text in general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in 
iOS. I like the fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I 
don't get that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also 
find it easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that 
this is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may 
differ. But that's my two cents.

                        Mary





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                            On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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                            I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a 
couple of different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you 
can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's 
still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! 
<Smiles>





                            It's one of those things where I really like doing 
email with the phone in my hand as there's so little movement involved, as 
opposed to having a keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to 
write a long message.





                            Carol P







                                On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:

                                Hi Gordon,

                                I don't think there is anything quite like aqua 
mail for iOS. But I am curious what you specifically like about it over what's 
available in the native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, 
and I don't like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large 
quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It 
just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the 
Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it.





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                                    Hi!



                                    I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but 
there's no such thing.



                                    Does anyone know about some similar and VO 
accessible client? I really like Aquamail features and options and I'd like to 
have something like Aquamail for iOS.



                                    Thanks for your answers!







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