Jonathan,
Thanks for your reply and the link to the article. I have to admit to being more than just a bit of a dinosaur on my approach to the cloud but when I read about the way things used to be done with apps being stored on a local computer and taking up valuable disk space, I raise a skeptical eye. I mean, I believe I paid about 3 cents per gigabyte the last time I purchased an external USB drive and no one can convince me that cloud storage costs less than that even without factoring in the download time. And I still trust myself to better manage my own backups as opposed to depending on a cloud-based backup. But then, I only have one iDevice and syncing across multiple devices which seems to depend on the cloud isn't an issue for me. After reading what I just wrote, I realize that the cost comparison might be inaccurate since Apple isn't charging a cloud storage fee to get the apps being restored from the cloud. But I really have a prejudice against clever marketing phrases like app thinning because it sounds like someone neatly spinning a few words to take away something I used. I'll remain hopeful that if I've kept copies of old versions of apps on my local computer that I'll be able to add them to a new device using iTunes but I'll mentally prepare myself that this may no longer be possible when I go to do it. Thanks again and I'm enjoying your book. Alan From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Post iOS 9 What Apps Are Restored? Hi Alan, first, thank you so much for buying the book. My understanding is that now, if you own an app that is no longer in the store, you could be outa luck. This article <http://www.imore.com/apps-disappeared-after-restoring-backup-your-iphone-6s-heres-fix> has a good explanation of the current state of things and talks about the restore process with the aid of the new app thinning technology. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 13/09/2016, at 3:09 PM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote: I'm still somewhat confused about what apps are restored to a device following an encrypted backup restore. I know this changed with iOS 9 and I just read in Jonathan Mosen's iOS 10 Without the Eye new book that apps aren't restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. So let's say I decide at some point to buy a new iPhone 7. I'll backup my iPhone 6 to an encrypted iTunes backup from which I'll restore to my new iPhone 7. What version of the apps will be restored to my new iPhone if I were running other than the latest version on my iPhone 6? I've made sure I have backed up copies of these versions to my computer using iTunes. It sounds from Jonathan's book as if only the latest version of my apps will be restored from Apple's servers. Is that right? What about apps that I happened to be running on my iPhone 6 that are no longer available in the Apps Store? Will I have to go through some extra hoops placing backup copies of these older versions in my Automatically Add to iTunes folder in order to get them on my new iPhone? Thanks for any help clarifying what apps are restored following an iOS 9 and later iTunes restore. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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