Hi Robert, 

 

I read a message earlier suggesting after you expand the messages in a thread 
you flick right to hear the list. I don't know if that will show the messages 
in the order you prefer. 

 

Good Luck, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Robert Hill
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mail is driving me crazy!

 

Hi all,

 

I have a question about the threading feature in mail settings.

 

I have gone into these settings, and have threading on, newest message on top 
off.

 

When I am in the mail app, and come to a message thread, I flick up with one 
finger to get to the expand thread item and double tap on it.

Now, when I flick down with one finger, I would expect to hear the oldest 
message spoken.

 

However, I hear the newest message spoken.

It doesn’t seem to matter which way I have the order of messages sety in the 
mail settings.

 

I am wondering if anyone else is having this issue.

 

Any suggestions on how to remedy this?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Hill

 

On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:

 

Richard, I'm not getting the behavior you describe. I just tried this in this 
message. I was on your message, and when I did a two-finger flick up, VO 
started reading Mary's message. Weird. I'm getting along with mail better than 
I was, which is a relief. I'm glad to see that the focus is jumped to the most 
recent unread message in a thread, so you don't have to go hunting for your 
place. I'm also liking the feature where you can put the oldest message in a 
thread at the top. This is behavior I'm used to from Gmail, and it feels a lot 
more natural to flick down to go to the next message in a thread rather than 
flicking up.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

 

When I flick down to a message and VO reads say the first couple lines, I use 
the two finger flick up and it reads the body of the message. Then, I touch 
with two fingers to pause it if I get interrupted, then touch with two fingers 
again and reading continues, just like always.

Now, if you have an iPad, apparently the reading is not so easy as Mary has 
mentioned.

But if you start reading with the two finger flick down, the two finger touch 
pauses like always.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Sep 14, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:

 I agree with you about the focusing need a little jumpy here. I'm not sure 
what you mean by what happens if a message is more than a paragraph? It reads 
straight through. At least here. The only time I have issues with headers being 
read is on the iPad, which I have talked about under a different thread. One 
focus difference I have noticed, and this is consistent, if you have a message 
open and you hit delete, the next message opens and after you hear the subject 
line, if you decide you want to delete it, focus is no longer on the delete 
button. You have to find it again and double tap it. That's a little bit 
annoying, especially on the iPad where, at least for me, the delete button is 
harder to find. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:

This new messages thing in the rotor is going to take some time to get used to. 
What happens if there's multiple paragraphs in a message? Also, VO focus seems 
to be quite jumpy in mail. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Does anyone know if 
there's a way to skip the header information in a message and go straight to 
the message text? I know the messages rotor item makes VO start reading the 
message text from the beginning, at least that's how it's been so far, but if I 
get interrupted while reading, then lose my place, I want a way to get back to 
it quickly, and not have to start reading from the beginning. Lol maybe I'm 
just being cranky and not giving the new mail view enough of a chance, but it's 
such a departure from the way it was previously. Also, I had the shock of my 
life when all my folders showed up on the screen. I figured out that I have to 
collaps mailboxes now.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari

 

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