I try other voices briefly but always go back to compact Samantha! She's like 
an old friend now! Smile. 

Ann 
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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, given the fact that there are apparently plenty of people on these 
> lists who don't think the voices  are problem, maybe Apple isn't hearing a 
> lot from people who do think they are problem. And maybe they don't know. 
> After all, the number of people who use these voices, compared to the number 
> of overall customers, is exceedingly small. So raise your voice. I know I 
> have requested that they open up their system to the point where we can use 
> other voices that they don't provide. And that hasn't gotten me anywhere.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
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>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, I was just assuming Apple was paying some royalties to Nuance to use 
>> their voices, so just like any other customer, they'd have the right to 
>> raise the issue with their supplier. I also assume Nuance gets quite a bit 
>> of mileage out of having their voices on such a popular device, so again, 
>> I'd think that would give Apple some influence with Nuance. Apple could also 
>> go to another company if they didn't think Nuance was providing the quality 
>> they expect from their suppliers and want to include in their devices. If 
>> Apple includes substandard parts in their devices then yes I think they have 
>> some responsibility for that decision.
>> 
>> You're right though, I can't prove anything, and I don't know the details of 
>> Apple's deal with Nuance, so I was wrong for bringing it up.
>> 
>>> On 15/09/16 21:22, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove 
>>> that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, 
>>> I don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could 
>>> improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be 
>>> nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, 
>>> open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, 
>>> such as voice dream reader.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm 
>>>> sure they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to 
>>>> let Apple share some of the responsibility.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:
>>>>> Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
>>>>> updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
>>>>> mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes <chantaloa...@shaw.ca
>>>>> <mailto:chantaloa...@shaw.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
>>>>>  very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
>>>>>  what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
>>>>>  have left it alone. Just my opinion.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Chantal Oakes
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan <dbeaver...@gmail.com
>>>>>  <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
>>>>>>  voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
>>>>>>  that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
>>>>>>  high quality voice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
>>>>>>  I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
>>>>>>  that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Am I alone in this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Dan Beaver
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