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Let's compare Apple's (Former) Wired EarPods-EarBuds TO Samsung's Wired EarBuds-EarPods
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My Samsung GalaxyS5 Wired EarPods-EarBuds are still IN GoodShape can't SayTheSame for My Apple EarBuds-EarPods from My Apple iPhone6
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At 07:38 PM 9/15/2016, you wrote:
Sorry, I was just assuming Apple was paying some royalties to Nuance to use their voices, so just like any other customer, they'd have the right to raise the issue with their supplier. I also assume Nuance gets quite a bit of mileage out of having their voices on such a popular device, so again, I'd think that would give Apple some influence with Nuance. Apple could also go to another company if they didn't think Nuance was providing the quality they expect from their suppliers and want to include in their devices. If Apple includes substandard parts in their devices then yes I think they have some responsibility for that decision.

You're right though, I can't prove anything, and I don't know the details of Apple's deal with Nuance, so I was wrong for bringing it up.

On 15/09/16 21:22, Mary Otten wrote:
Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, I don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, such as voice dream reader.
Mary


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On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm sure they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to let Apple share some of the responsibility.


On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:
Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes <chantaloa...@shaw.ca
<mailto:chantaloa...@shaw.ca>> wrote:

   Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
   very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
   what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
   have left it alone. Just my opinion.

   Chantal Oakes

   On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan <dbeaver...@gmail.com
   <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Hi,


   I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.


   I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.


   Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
   voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
   that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
   high quality voice.


   With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
   I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
   that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.


   Am I alone in this?


   Dan Beaver

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