You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a loose, > although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared to those, > mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't comment on it. > Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather than the things > slowing down, if I make sense. > > > > Sent from a Braille Sense > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Otten <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm > Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini > >> >> >> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like >> applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my >> iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of >> the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini >> two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem >> on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I >> suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still >> works, I just think it's showing it's age. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the >>> same age as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mary Otten <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm >>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using >>>> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It >>>> still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last >>>> update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini >>>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that >>>> you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, >>>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But >>>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, >>>> at least one more year. And there might be good deals on that coming down >>>> the line. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Sieghard, >>>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give >>>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a >>>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is >>>>> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and >>>>> the 4 has an a8. >>>>> Once again thanks for the info. >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ed, >>>>> >>>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of >>>>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models >>>>> and release info" >>>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search >>>>> results and here you find this information in a concise and >>>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad >>>>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has >>>>> the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and >>>>> the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell >>>>> the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 >>>>> and definitely not the first generation. Here now the information: >>>>> >>>>> Developer: Apple Inc. >>>>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1] >>>>> Product family: iPad >>>>> Type: Tablet computer >>>>> >>>>> Release date >>>>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012 >>>>> 2: November 12, 2013 >>>>> 3: October 22, 2014 >>>>> 4: September 9, 2015 >>>>> >>>>> Operating system: iOS >>>>> >>>>> System-on-chip used >>>>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm) >>>>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor) >>>>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor) >>>>> >>>>> CPU >>>>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 >>>>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone >>>>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon >>>>> >>>>> Memory >>>>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM >>>>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM >>>>> 4: 2048 MB RAM >>>>> >>>>> Storage >>>>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory >>>>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2] >>>>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory >>>>> >>>>> Display >>>>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS >>>>> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio >>>>> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi >>>>> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display) >>>>> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating >>>>> >>>>> Graphics >>>>> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2 >>>>> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430 >>>>> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450 >>>>> >>>>> Input >>>>> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light >>>>> sensors, 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass >>>>> >>>>> Camera >>>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP >>>>> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP >>>>> >>>>> Connectivity >>>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz >>>>> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz >>>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0 >>>>> 4: Bluetooth 4.2 >>>>> >>>>> GSM: LTE (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz) . UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA (850, >>>>> 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) . GSM / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) >>>>> CDMA: LTE (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz) . CDMA / EV-DO >>>>> Rev. A & B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz) . UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA (850, >>>>> 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) . GSM / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) >>>>> >>>>> Power >>>>> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h) >>>>> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h) >>>>> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h) >>>>> >>>>> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, >>>>> iMessage >>>>> >>>>> Dimensions >>>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134..6 mm × 7.1 mm) >>>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134..6 mm × 7.1 mm) >>>>> 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm) >>>>> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Weight >>>>> 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g) >>>>> 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g) >>>>> 4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). 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Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using >>>> voiceover, and maybe that will help.. The mini two is getting slow. It >>>> still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last >>>> update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini >>>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that >>>> you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, >>>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But >>>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, >>>> at least one more year. And there might be good deals on that coming down >>>> the line. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Sieghard, >>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give >>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a >>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is >>>> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the >>>> 4 has an a8. >>>> Once again thanks for the info. >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini >>>> >>>> Hi Ed, >>>> >>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of >>>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models >>>> and release info" >>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search >>>> results and here you find this information in a concise and >>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad >>>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has >>>> the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and >>>> the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell >>>> the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 >>>> and definitely not the first generation. Here now the information: >>>> >>>> Developer: Apple Inc. >>>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1] >>>> Product family: iPad >>>> Type: Tablet computer >>>> >>>> Release date >>>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012 >>>> 2: November 12, 2013 >>>> 3: October 22, 2014 >>>> 4: September 9, 2015 >>>> >>>> Operating system: iOS >>>> >>>> System-on-chip used >>>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm) >>>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor) >>>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor) >>>> >>>> CPU >>>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 >>>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone >>>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon >>>> >>>> Memory >>>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM >>>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM >>>> 4: 2048 MB RAM >>>> >>>> Storage >>>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory >>>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2] >>>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory >>>> >>>> Display >>>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS >>>> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio >>>> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi >>>> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display) >>>> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating >>>> >>>> Graphics >>>> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2 >>>> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430 >>>> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450 >>>> >>>> Input >>>> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, >>>> 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass >>>> >>>> Camera >>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP >>>> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP >>>> >>>> Connectivity >>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz >>>> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz >>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0 >>>> 4: Bluetooth 4.2 >>>> >>>> GSM: LTE (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz) . UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA (850, >>>> 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) . GSM / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) >>>> CDMA: LTE (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz) . CDMA / EV-DO >>>> Rev. A & B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz) . UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA (850, 900, >>>> 1900, 2100 MHz) . GSM / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) >>>> >>>> Power >>>> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h) >>>> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h) >>>> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h) >>>> >>>> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, >>>> iMessage >>>> >>>> Dimensions >>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm) >>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm) >>>> 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm) >>>> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m >>>> >>>> >>>> Weight >>>> 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g) >>>> 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g) >>>> 4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). 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