When was that even released? And what IOS can it handle? As for the battery, 
you can always use it off charge, when the battery goes.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
> you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
> audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
> battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mary,
> > Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a 
> > loose, although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared 
> > to those, mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't 
> > comment on it. Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather 
> > than the things slowing down, if I make sense. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mary Otten  <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
> > Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems 
> >> like applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared 
> >> to my iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in 
> >> favor of the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader 
> >> on my mini two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having 
> >> this problem on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of 
> >> course, I suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the 
> >> mini two still works, I just think it's showing it's age.
> >> Mary
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Mary,
> >>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's 
> >>> the same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> >>> 
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Mary Otten  <[email protected]>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be 
> >>>> using voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. 
> >>>> It still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
> >>>> update.. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
> >>>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand 
> >>>> that you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
> >>>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
> >>>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini 
> >>>> twoo, at least one more year.. And there might be good deals on that 
> >>>> coming down the line.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi Sieghard,
> >>>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> >>>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> >>>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There 
> >>>>> is not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip 
> >>>>> and the 4 has an a8..
> >>>>> Once again thanks for the info.
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> >>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi Ed,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
> >>>>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini 
> >>>>> models and release info"
> >>>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
> >>>>> results and here you find this information in a concise and
> >>>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the 
> >>>>> iPad Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, 
> >>>>> it has the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth 
> >>>>> version and the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple 
> >>>>> still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell 
> >>>>> the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first generation. Here now the 
> >>>>> information:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Developer: Apple Inc.
> >>>>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> >>>>> Product family: iPad
> >>>>> Type: Tablet computer
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Release date
> >>>>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> >>>>> 2: November 12, 2013
> >>>>> 3: October 22, 2014
> >>>>> 4: September 9, 2015
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Operating system: iOS
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> System-on-chip used
> >>>>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> >>>>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> >>>>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> CPU
> >>>>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> >>>>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> >>>>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Memory
> >>>>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> >>>>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> >>>>> 4: 2048 MB RAM
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Storage
> >>>>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> >>>>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> >>>>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Display
> >>>>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> >>>>> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> >>>>> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> >>>>> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> >>>>> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Graphics
> >>>>> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> >>>>> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> >>>>> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Input
> >>>>> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light 
> >>>>> sensors, 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Camera
> >>>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> >>>>> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Connectivity
> >>>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> >>>>> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> >>>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> >>>>> 4: Bluetooth 4.2
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 
> >>>>> 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)  
> >>>>> CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   .  CDMA / EV-DO 
> >>>>> Rev. A & B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 
> >>>>> 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Power
> >>>>> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h)
> >>>>> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h)
> >>>>> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, 
> >>>>> iMessage
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Dimensions
> >>>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134..6 mm × 7.1 
> >>>>> mm)
> >>>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134..6 mm × 7.1 
> >>>>> mm)
> >>>>> 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
> >>>>> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Weight
> >>>>> 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 
> >>>>> g)
> >>>>> 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
> >>>>> 4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)
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> >>>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be 
> >>>> using voiceover, and maybe that will help.. The mini two is getting 
> >>>> slow. It still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen 
> >>>> its last update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, 
> >>>> the mini two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also 
> >>>> understand that you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing 
> >>>> for kids, depending on how old they are and how will they take care of 
> >>>> stuff. But the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than 
> >>>> the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there might be good deals on 
> >>>> that coming down the line.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Sieghard,
> >>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> >>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> >>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is 
> >>>> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and 
> >>>> the 4 has an a8.
> >>>> Once again thanks for the info.
> >>>> Ed
> >>>> 
> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Ed,
> >>>> 
> >>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
> >>>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models 
> >>>> and release info"
> >>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
> >>>> results and here you find this information in a concise and 
> >>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the 
> >>>> iPad Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it 
> >>>> has the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth 
> >>>> version and the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple 
> >>>> still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell 
> >>>> the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first generation. Here now the 
> >>>> information:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Developer: Apple Inc.
> >>>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> >>>> Product family: iPad
> >>>> Type: Tablet computer
> >>>> 
> >>>> Release date
> >>>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> >>>> 2: November 12, 2013
> >>>> 3: October 22, 2014
> >>>> 4: September 9, 2015
> >>>> 
> >>>> Operating system: iOS
> >>>> 
> >>>> System-on-chip used
> >>>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> >>>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> >>>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> >>>> 
> >>>> CPU
> >>>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> >>>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> >>>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
> >>>> 
> >>>> Memory
> >>>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> >>>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> >>>> 4: 2048 MB RAM 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Storage
> >>>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> >>>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> >>>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Display
> >>>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> >>>> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> >>>> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> >>>> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> >>>> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Graphics
> >>>> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> >>>> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> >>>> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Input
> >>>> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light 
> >>>> sensors, 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Camera
> >>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> >>>> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Connectivity
> >>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> >>>> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> >>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> >>>> 4: Bluetooth 4.2
> >>>> 
> >>>> GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 
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> >>>> 
> >>>> Power
> >>>> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h)
> >>>> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h)
> >>>> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h) 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, 
> >>>> iMessage 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Dimensions
> >>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> >>>> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
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> >>>> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Weight
> >>>> 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)
> >>>> 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
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