Ari, good questions. I always do an encripted backup to iTunes, no idea where 
voicemails would be stored in it.
I checked in iCloud settings; mail is off. I tried to turn it on, and it asked 
about creating a free iCloud email account which I don’t need. So this setting 
means nothing apparently.
Where do you turn on visual voicemail?
I should know but cannot find it. I believe it’s on, but I’m not seeing it in 
settings anywhere.

Thanks.

Paul

From: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 1:44 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: are my voicemails gone forever now that I upgraded

That's strange. I've never had voicemail disappear on me, nor emails. I do make 
certain to do an encrypted backup in iTunes before updating to any iOS version, 
however. I would recommend doing so. Also, do you have visual voicemail 
enabled, or are you using your carrier's voicemail option? I don't think using 
your carrier's voicemail option would make any difference, but ever since I got 
my first iPhone, I've always used the visual voicemail option, and it's worked 
well for me.


Thanks,
Ari

On Oct 28, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Paul Ferrara <[email protected]> wrote:


  All, I seem to remember the last time I upgraded phones 18 months ago that 
email and voicemail was deleted, never to be found again.
  In the last 18 months, I had two voicemails I saved and wanted to keep 
forever; however, I forgot about my old ones disappearing. I couldn’t care less 
about the email; the voice mail—totally different thing. Is there anything at 
all I can do to retrieve them, or are they, as I suspect, permanently gone.

  Thanks.

  Paul
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