Everyone,  

Please close this thread.

There have been a great deal of views expressed on this subject and now it's 
time to move on.

Thank you,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

Hi,
Only know English for 6 years, and unless I'm defending myself off list, and 
even there, I'm more of a sarcastic type, if anything. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

----- Original Message -----
From: Julian  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

>
>
> 
> As I read this exchange it occurs to me that perhaps Todd may not be a native 
> English speaker, so perhaps there may be a language barrier thus causing 
> something to be lost in translation. I don't see this as a way to excuse 
> nasty behavior, but, sometimes when words are not translated correctly it 
> could lead to misunderstandings.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > He's certainly older than me, knows Rich for 35 years, as we've been told 
> > about 10 times the last 7 days.  I didn't even exist back then myself.
> > 
> > Sent from a BrailleNote
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: regina alvarado <[email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date sent: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:00:08 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> > 
> > 
> > Mr.  Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
> > his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him.  
> > I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a 
> > wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the 
> > country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty.  There is far, far too much of 
> > that going around.  It is time he try and make a point without attacking 
> > the very folks who are helping him.  I have a hearing deficit also and 
> > frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there were no 
> > computers much less voice or braille displays.  Talk about frustration.  I 
> > had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my first computer at work. 
> >  Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter.  I do not know his age, but 
> > it does come across as a spoiled child.  Jonathan is never nasty, and he 
> > has a worse hearing difficulty than me..  Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me 
> > thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs) On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr.  Ed 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Reggie,
> > Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board.  So he cannot use the 
> > method you gave him.
> > Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by 
> > step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> > Mr.  Ed
> > 
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> > Behalf Of regina alvarado
> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> > 
> > 
> > Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it.  Maybe you are 
> > using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, 
> > but I am sorry it doesn't work for you.  I had arrange apps, tapped on 
> > that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that 
> > and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on.  I 
> > am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
> > 
> > 
> > Reggie and Lex
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > All:
> > 
> > Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> > 
> > One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I 
> > tried doing so, it will not.  It says "Your Homekit will not be deleted".  
> > This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> > 
> > Yes, y'all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc.  fails to 
> > realize.
> > 
> > Also, Health app does not show "activate" or "Arranging apps".  What kind 
> > of thing is that?
> > 
> > Use your common sense!
> > 
> > That is all I can say now.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Todd
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