So are Australians are in Central US time, and do they use an email provider from Switzerland? Interesting....
Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:14 pm Subject: RE: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people > > > I'm in Australia and I don't know how I'd go about taking somebody to small > claims court who lives in the US > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: RE: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting > people > > Local Time: November 26, 2016 5:47 PM > > UTC Time: November 26, 2016 5:47 PM > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > Hi Shaf, > > > > Strictly speaking what you and Sarah describe would be fraud, a thief is > somebody who steels something by breaking into your house or maybe from a > store during opening hours. Anyhow, in a way it is symantics. I don't fault > you and Sarah from being angry, but I still say that the 2,000 people on this > list which deals with the iPhone, iOS, apps and accessories want to > continuously come across posts where every time Eden posts something you call > her out by calling her a thief, crook or whatever. If somebody has the > moderators permission to advertise an item for sale and you see Eden replying > you can always send that person a direct message to warn them, but while I am > sorry for you having been defrauded it should not be a continuous issue on > this or other lists. I'll leave it at this and won't comment further. > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Shaf Patel > > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:19 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting > people > > > > Well, she is a thief. Face the facts. Glad somebody else decided to call her > out on her deception. > > > > On 11/26/2016 5:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Hi Sarah, > > > > > > > > > > > > $3,500 is a pretty good chunk of money. I am not at all disputing what > > > you are saying but for such a large amount why not go to smallclaims > > > court? Also, you at least don't call her names and openly attack her > > > on the list, you provide an account of what happened which supports > > > Shaf, but beyond this it is not list related and calling somebody > > > "thief" and worse is just not for this list even if it is true and it > > > needs to be dealt with in other ways. Even if somebody pays in > > > installments I guess it is better not to deliver the product until it > > > is paid for in full. I own a retail store and we do Layaways but of > > > course people don't get to take the product until the last payment has been > > made. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sieghard > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:*'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]] > > > *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:38 AM > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > *Subject:* It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I was reading a thread where somebody else said that they were scammed > > > by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals who > > > was scammed by her. > > > > > > Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on > > > Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking > > > too purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she > > > couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could > > > pay monthly installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it > > > and thought she would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 > > > and sent her the BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent > > > condition, had no scratches or dents, had an excellent battery and > > > came with all the accessories including the carrying case. > > > > > > I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she > > > owes me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and > > > rather than talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money > > > she owes me she decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my > > emails. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset > > > that she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and > > > hope she doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that > > > other people have also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's > > > done the same to others. I was only trying to do her a favor by > > > accepting payment installments since I understand not everybody has > > > $4000 to pay all at once, but now I know not to do that anymore and > > > only accept a payment in full. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading and I hope people think twice before falling for > > > these horrible scams. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarah > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > > > Quinn > > > - you can reach Cara at [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "VIPhone" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]>. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]>. > > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > > > Quinn > > > - 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