Well, i am excited for the release of IOS 6 i subscribed to this list tonight, and i hope to get help in the feature. Morgan On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:13 PM, Frank Ventura <[email protected]> wrote:
> Better yet, why isn't it running the latest Jellybean? If you walk into an > Apple store and buy an IOS device you wil get the latest shipping OS with the > latest accessibility improvements. > > Frank Ventura > Email: [email protected] > Voicemail: 781 492-4262 > Imessage: [email protected] > > *Sent from my Mac Book Air* > > > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Russ Kiehne <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The recently released Kindle Fire hd is running Ice Cream Sandwich. Why >> didn't hey make it accessible? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:17 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >> >> That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing >> the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle >> Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick >> up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much >> as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the >> implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to >> accessibility is a bit overstated. >> >> On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: >>> At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon >>> has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully >>> accessible. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>> >>> Hi Kawal, >>> >>> Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, >>> Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they >>> are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath >>> regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who >>> once >>> had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Kawal Gucukoglu >>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>> >>> Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. >>> On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The >>> search results will have a heading something like "Iphone apps". >>>> >>>> HtH, >>>> Teresa >>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, >>> and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click >>> download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it >>> will >>> update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will >>> be >>> updated on the device as well. >>>>> Sent from my mac >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and >>>>>> never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure >>>>>> to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot >>>>>> better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I >>>>>> would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron & Danvers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>> Behalf Of John Panarese >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>> >>>>>> To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative >>>>>> and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As >>>>>> someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so >>>>>> let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on >>>>>> AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>> Email, [email protected] >>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind >>>>>> >>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> >>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, "AnonyMouse" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the >>>>>>> past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say >>>>>>> that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you >>>>>>> consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this >>>>>>> is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't >>>>>>> believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is >>>>>>> the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with >>>>>>> in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major >>>>>>> at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues >>>>>>> but we have said there were other issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are >>>>>>> blowing smoke. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> AnonyMouse >>>>>>> AppleVis Editorial Team >>>>>>> www.AppleVis.com >>>>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville >>>>>>> Zello: =AnonyMouse= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of James Mannion >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that >>>>>>> they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could >>>>>>> at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they >>>>>>> were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not >>>>>>> other major issues. A few have said there are not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. >>>>>>>> However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If >>>>>>>> the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use >>>>>>>> than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same >>>>>>>> thing using >>>>>>> iTunes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Daniel Miller >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't >>>>>>>> going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on >>>>>>>> Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me >>>>>>>> being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements >>>>>>>> until the store changes are >>>>>>> completely rolled out. >>>>>>>> Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable >>>>>>>> since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS >>> itself. >>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and >>>>>>>> the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I >>>>>>>> think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver >>>>>>>> could be more helpful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already >>>>>>>> been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your >>>>>>>> password when you >>>>>>> update. >>>>>>>> You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while >>>>>>>> ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App >>>>>>>> Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you >>>>>>>> simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double >>>>>>>> tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you >>>>>>>> confirmation that the app update has begun downloading. However, >>>>>>>> if you go to your home screen right away, you will be able to see >>>>>>>> that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the >>>>>>>> download and install changing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to >>>>>>>> update. >>> >>>>>>>> yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, >>>>>>>> or downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't >>>>>>>> inaccessible at >>>>>> all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and >>>>>>>> speculated on, I would say that if you have information which >>>>>>>> helps to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the >>>>>>>> judge of how much you >>>>>>> can say. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before >>> commenting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new >>>>>>>> changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you >>>>>>>> can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you >>>>>>>> will be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you >>>>>>>> will have to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping >>>>>>>> the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>>>>>> There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's >>>>>>>> the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not >>>>>>>> important >>>>>>> right now. >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >>>>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Face book: >>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/rau47 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like >>>>>>>>> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread >>>>>>>>> to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed >>>>>>>>> to be under >>>>>>>> NDA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of James Mannion >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality >>>>>>>>> in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility >>>>>>>>> issues or reliability issues? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/16/12, Kliphton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, >>>>>>>>>> especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, >>>>>>>>>> and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, >>>>>>>>>> let's wait for >>>>>>>> Wednesday. >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does >>> anybody >>>>>>>>>>> know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. 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