I love big devices so if this premium one is the only one with wireless charging I will gladly take it.
On 2/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > If Apple goes the way of wireless charging they may charge a premium for the > first year if they add it only to a high-end iPhone. However, once it comes > to all the phones the price should be the same just as over time the higher > capacity phones always cost the same as a few years before those who had > half the amount of storage space. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:46 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Wireless Charging, Anyone? It's a Chicken-and-egg Problem That > Can Only Be Solved By a Fruit > > I have a Samsung S7, and although I wouldn't buy a phone just for the > wireless charging feature, I do find it convenient. I also assume the S7 > runs about the same as your latest iPhones. > > On 27/02/17 00:01, Alan Lemly wrote: >> Hi Sieghard, >> >> Actually, I have an iPhone 7 and also the Belkin adapter that lets me >> listen with my wired earpods and charge at the same time. I have found >> that I don't do this quite as often as I used to but keeping up with the >> adapter and using it as needed isn't a problem for me. And I'd be willing >> to bet that you'll be paying considerably more than $40 in device cost to >> cover the wireless charging when it's added. But that rumored phone is >> also supposed to be about 5.8 inches in size with no home button so I'm >> pretty sure I won't be getting it. >> >> Alan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:28 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Wireless Charging, Anyone? It's a Chicken-and-egg Problem >> That Can Only Be Solved By a Fruit >> >> Hi Alan, >> >> You forget that the iPhone 7/7 Plus and most likely all iPhones going >> forward don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack. This means that if you want to >> use a wired headset you need to use the Lightning port hence you can't >> charge while using a headset or vice versa. Yes, I know you can spend $40 >> and buy this splitter gadget from Belkin, but who wants to do that and >> have another piece of cable to bring along or more clutter. >> >> Unfortunately there are already rumours which indicate that Apple may >> release a new high-end model this year with a 5.8 inch OLED screen and >> that this year only this huge super phone will get the wireless charging. >> I really hope this is not so, if it is I think I'll stick with my 6S Plus >> for another year because if wireless charging comes only to a high-end and >> high-priced iPhone this year it will certainly come to the other phones >> next year. I would totally go back to a 4.7 inch phone if battery life was >> better or if the phone was constantly being charged wirelessly when I'm at >> home or at my office. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Alan Lemly >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Wireless Charging, Anyone? It's a Chicken-and-egg Problem >> That Can Only Be Solved By a Fruit >> >> Mark, >> >> Thanks for the info. I guess I'm more old school because finding access to >> an outlet or USB port to charge my iPhone really doesn't seem to be that >> big of a deal. And if I'm on the move, carrying a small external battery >> power source isn't much of a hassle either. But I've no doubt that >> wireless charging is inevitable and I hope after reading the below history >> and its complexities that the eventual convenience of wireless charging is >> worth its cost. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Wireless Charging, Anyone? It's a Chicken-and-egg Problem >> That Can Only Be Solved By a Fruit >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Here is the text from a very interesting cNet article that I thought you >> may find interesting. >> >> The URL to the original article is located as the end of the piece. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> A World Free of Charging Cables? It's All Up To Apple By Roger >> Cheng/CNET >> >> The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge features wireless charging, and successor the >> S8 will likely have the same capability. >> >> The pitch has always been a simple one: Place your phone down and watch it >> charge automatically, without the fuss of finding an outlet or connecting >> a power cord. >> >> The reality of wireless charging, however, has been anything but. >> >> Differing technologies and incompatible standards have hindered broader >> adoption of wireless charging. It was good enough to work in Oral-B >> electric toothbrushes in the early '90s, yet most phones still lack the >> ability to charge without a power cord. >> >> But 2017 appears to be the year wireless charging gets its act together. >> You're starting to see an accelerating trickle of products incorporating >> the feature, from a Dell laptop unveiled at CES to automakers looking for >> a way to more easily power their electric vehicles. The most obvious spark >> could come from Apple, which appears ready to get off the sidelines and >> commit to the feature in a big way by joining the Wireless Power >> Consortium. The rumors of the iPhone 8 getting wireless charging alone are >> enough to get people thinking about the feature. >> >> "Whoever Apple picks wins," said Avi Greengart, an analyst at research >> firm Global Data. "That's the catalyst that would drive enough volume." >> >> Apple declined to comment on how the WPC will impact the next iPhone. >> >> "Apple is an active member of many standards development organizations, as >> both a leader and contributor," the company said. "Apple is joining the >> Wireless Power Consortium to be able to participate and contribute ideas >> to the open, collaborative development of future wireless charging >> standards." >> >> An embrace of wireless charging by the iPhone maker could mean a >> resurgence of interest in the feature. Last year, "things lost steam a >> bit," according to IHS analyst David Green. Yes, the number of wireless >> charging devices grew 40 percent year over year in 2016, but that was >> largely because Samsung incorporated the feature into its Galaxy S7 and >> Note 7 phones. >> >> And just because wireless charging is in a phone doesn't mean consumers >> are taking advantage of it -- or even aware of the capability. >> >> The market is expected to nearly double to 375 million devices in 2017, >> and Green said he expects at least one more player to publicly embrace >> wireless charging at the Mobile World Congress trade show next week. >> >> Obvious benefits >> >> Phone makers for years have touted wireless charging as a key feature. >> Nokia famously championed it with its flagship Lumia phones, and Google >> and LG incorporated it into the Nexus 4 phone. >> >> Those companies used a technology called inductive charging -- the same as >> that electric toothbrush -- which requires you to place the device on a >> charging pad in a specific position. >> >> Newer forms of wireless charging open the door to different applications. >> Magnetic resonance gives you a bit more freedom, so you don't have to lay >> your phone down at an exact spot. It can charge multiple devices with >> different power needs. It can also charge across a few inches and through >> objects, so you can mount a charging pad under a table rather than have a >> specific built-in inductive charger in your furniture (which Ikea actually >> offers). >> >> That ability to charge over a short distance is an opportunity for >> automakers and their electric cars. Alex Gruzen, CEO of WiTricity, which >> builds chips to power magnetic resonance technology, said he's planning >> for car launches in 2020 that will take advantage of the technology. He >> sees phones capable of using magnetic resonance coming next year. >> >> "Wireless charging is part of everyone's future roadmap," Gruzen said. >> >> Meanwhile, companies like Energous are exploring sending power over radio >> frequency airwaves, similar to how online connectivity gets broadcast over >> Wi-Fi. In fact, Energous plans to integrate its power broadcasting >> capabilities into Wi-Fi routers next year. >> >> Beyond phones, that kind of capability would be ideal for low-power >> sensors like smoke detectors or even smaller devices like hearing aids. >> >> While the idea of charging something 15 feet away sounds great, there are >> questions about how quickly you can charge over the air. Energous also >> needs to get approval from the Federal Communications Commission to ensure >> its system is safe. >> >> "We are quite comfortable that we have developed tech that conforms to >> their guidelines," said Energous CEO Steve Rizzone. >> >> How did we get into this mess? >> >> Here's where things get confusing. >> >> Despite the range of technologies, the standards battles have largely been >> fought around two incompatible versions of inductive charging. >> >> On one side is Qi, championed by the Wireless Power Consortium. It boasts, >> by far, the most wireless charging products. >> >> On the other side is a form of inductive charging pushed by Powermat >> and the AirFuel Alliance, an amalgamation of two former groups that >> now also embraces magnetic resonance and radio frequency charging. (I >> told you this was confusing.) >> >> Powermat has invested in building a network of charging stations in retail >> locations like Starbucks and McDonald's, but has fewer phones in the >> market using its technology. >> >> Samsung actually had a chance to provide some clarity, but opted to play >> nice and incorporate both versions into its Galaxy S phones. That just led >> to more confusion, with both standards crowing about being in the >> high-profile devices. >> >> "By not picking the winner, it almost prolongs the pain," Greengart said. >> >> Talking to the two sides is like talking to a Golden State Warriors fan >> and a Cleveland Cavaliers fan: You're going to get two distinct >> realities. >> >> "They're not there," WPC Chairman Menno Treffers said of the competition. >> "There's not much of a battle anymore." >> >> "The adoption is so small now, there's no one to say what the standard is >> going to look like," said Ron Resnick, chairman of the AirFuel Alliance. >> >> You can see why we're still in a logjam. >> >> Where Apple comes in >> >> Apple could provide some clarity. Earlier this month, it confirmed it had >> joined the WPC, sparking speculation that the purported iPhone 8 would >> include wireless charging. >> >> It isn't just joining for show. Treffers said that Apple is expected to >> make a technical contribution to Qi and that company representatives were >> in London last week making a presentation, part of a broader gathering of >> members. >> >> WPC membership doesn't guarantee that the iPhone uses Qi. Note that the >> Apple Watch uses a form of inductive charging too. >> >> But if Apple commits to Qi, Powermat CEO Elad Dubzinski said his network >> of charging stations could support the standard with a mix of hardware and >> software tweaks. He said he was more concerned with managing the network >> of services that would flow on top of wireless charging, say, at a >> Starbucks. >> >> There's also the persistent chatter that Apple is exploring wireless >> charging over several feet, which is where Energous could come into play. >> Rizzone has hinted at a "key strategic partner," which many have taken to >> mean Apple. >> >> Energous has given this partner a one-year exclusivity deal for a specific >> product category. Given Apple's eagerness to lock up new features for >> itself, the deal might signal that future iPhones could embrace radio >> frequency charging. >> >> And that ultimately could be the answer, with companies incorporating >> inductive or magnetic resonance for faster charging over shorter >> distances, and radio frequency to help keep your battery topped off. >> >> No matter how things shake out, it may take Apple to light the way. >> >> "It's a chicken-and-egg problem that can only be solved by a fruit," >> Greengart said. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://www.cnet.com/news/wireless-charging-apple-iphone-8-samsung-wpc >> -qi-po >> wermat/?ftag=CAD1c318f6&bhid=22694667381686839172315209628767 >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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