i,
android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible.

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On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
*No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers
are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on
android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone.
I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot
of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that
I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*

*I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using
internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what
ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed
automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not
with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install
apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not
iTunes.*

*If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with
copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my
computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*

*If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need
to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my
phone and it is it.*

*I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using
jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*

*I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just
doesn’t exist or is very low.*

*Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In
United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is
because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you
are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones
used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android
wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I
like better android for many many reasons.*

* *

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pablo,



I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like
Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any
company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And
you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of
companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like
Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for
them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an
Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply
and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.



Alan Lemly



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android
device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with
sd cards.

Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with
everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone
memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult
for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other
devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but
use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in
android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can
create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our
computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons
why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics
and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money.
Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to
control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do
what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way.





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Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM
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*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Hi Victor,



I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer
SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD
card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be
more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what
is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the
closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest,
would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and
I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think
actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from
that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google
Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion
slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space,
but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof
or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the
device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple
offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t
get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if
they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more.



Regards,

Sieghard



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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
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*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



I don’t agree.  Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with
the memory it’s offering.



I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got
an expansion slot for an SD card.



Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this
concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on
the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget.  Alas,
it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message.



Victor



*From:*Mr. Ed

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM

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Hi Mary,

I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal.

Mr. Ed



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Behalf Of *Mary Otten
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*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a
substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit
more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal.
Mary


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On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

    And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just
    heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be
    an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be
    introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much
    fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around
    the iPhone SE..





    *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
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    *On Behalf Of *Marissa Solaun
    *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM
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    *Subject:* Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
    iPhone - Bloomberg



    May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+
    
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone


      Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone

    More stories by Alex Webb
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb>

    Apple Inc. <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US>introduced a
    revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest
    price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat
    AIDS.

    Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display
    starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7
    and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership
    with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS.

    “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have
    made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the
    purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED
    Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and
    accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive
    Officer Tim Cook said in a statement
    <wlmailhtml://news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ>Tuesday.

    Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund,
    contributing more than $130 million, the company said.

    Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone
    later this year.
    Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone
    which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year
    of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a
    cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging
    markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the
    services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and
    the other products category.

    Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in
    New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.

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    The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB
    Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24
    in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone
    (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at
    $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for
    the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in
    32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing
    the previous models.

    Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips
    
<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>,
    that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be
    shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift
    Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is
    available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German,
    Spanish and simplified Chinese.


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