Hi Alan, Well said, Apple has a totally different business model as it relies on its hardware and services to make money. Google makes its money from advertising, but of course now that Alphabet Inc. which owns Google and a multitude of other companies has been set up, it is even more complicated. The fact is that Android is a platform which manufacturers can use and customize and impose their own UI elements on, there are hundreds and hundreds of manufacturers who make Android devices and there is one company which makes Apple devices with iOS. I always hear how users are running from Apple to Android because of all that fantastic flexibility and freedom Android offers, yet while apple experienced less growth about a year ago, the iPhone 7/7 Plus again were hugely successful and just as people leave iOS to try Android, the opposite is also true. I really think we should stop making every argument for or against one or the other a competition as to what is better. The fct is that both platforms are good, both are very mature by now, you can get beautiful devices from Apple and you can get beautiful Android phones. Everybody decides what they want and you are totally correct that Apple should make as much money as they can which of course is what they do. They are a publically traded company and they have an obligation towards their shareholders to make money. Pablo left the iPhone behind a couple or 3 years ago because he thought Android was so much better. When he came back to the list having just bought an iPhone 7 I think he said himself how Android had all this flexibility but that it also had its issues. I personally can’t justify owning two high-end smartphones and maintaining two cell phone plans and while Apple sometimes totally screws up, I do for the most part like their devices and ecosystem and so far have not felt the need to try Android. At the same time I am perfectly happy with my Windows computers and what Microsoft has been doing with Windows 10, I like Jaws and know it inside out and therefore don’t feel any urge to try Apple computers.
Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb<https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> Apple Inc.<https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement<wlmailhtml://news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ> Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said. Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year. Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category. Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. [Image removed by sender.] The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models. Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>, that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality [Image removed by sender.] <ol class="noscript-footnotes"></ol> Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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