Yes, you are right. Like Christopher said before. Everything depends of likes. 
Some people like apple, some people like android. I used iPhone for several 
years, and for several years I have been complaining about apple software 
policies. Now with android I don't have those problems, so of course  I am 
happy using android more than IOs. However people who are comfortable using 
apple software policies , they don't see any advantage using android. But those 
are likes. I like apple because it was the first smart device that I used. 
However some situations that aggravated me that probably doesn't aggravate you 
or other users, moved me to android. But you, me and everyone are different.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

i,
android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you 
customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's 
android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of 
being able to use it or whether it's accessible.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
> *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The 
> Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much 
> better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel 
> phone.
> I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot 
> of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something 
> that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*
>
> *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using 
> internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for 
> what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is 
> installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel 
> phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able 
> to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular 
> browser. Not
> iTunes.*
>
> *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with 
> copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my 
> computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*
>
> *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t 
> need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties 
> apps in my phone and it is it.*
>
> *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using 
> jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*
>
> *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just 
> doesn’t exist or is very low.*
>
> *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In 
> United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is 
> because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because 
> you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when 
> iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true 
> that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and 
> android user. I like better android for many many reasons.*
>
> * *
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Pablo,
>
>
>
> I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like 
> Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that 
> any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. 
> And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the 
> multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If 
> you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working 
> pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you 
> should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. 
> That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android 
> device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones 
> with sd cards.
>
> Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with 
> everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone 
> memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult 
> for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and 
> other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our 
> iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More 
> over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, 
> you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our 
> computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons 
> why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different 
> politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more 
> money.
> Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to 
> control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do 
> what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Hi Victor,
>
>
>
> I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and 
> offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media 
> on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it 
> would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users 
> access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the 
> purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the 
> newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast 
> things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants 
> to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones 
> are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I 
> heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, 
> having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is 
> probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely 
> not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of 
> course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would 
> probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. 
> Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I 
> totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder 
> how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 
> times the space) for $100 more.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> I don’t agree.  Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not 
> with the memory it’s offering.
>
>
>
> I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s 
> got an expansion slot for an SD card.
>
>
>
> Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this 
> concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory 
> on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget.  
> Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message.
>
>
>
> Victor
>
>
>
> *From:*Mr. Ed
>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM
>
> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Hi Mary,
>
> I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a 
> substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a 
> bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
>     And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just
>     heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be
>     an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be
>     introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much
>     fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around
>     the iPhone SE..
>
>
>
>
>
>     *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>     *On Behalf Of *Marissa Solaun
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM
>     *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>     *Subject:* Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
>     iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
>     May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+
>     
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-ch
> eapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone
>
>
>       Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone
>
>     More stories by Alex Webb
>     <https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb>
>
>     Apple Inc. <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US>introduced a
>     revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest
>     price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat
>     AIDS.
>
>     Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display
>     starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7
>     and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership
>     with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS.
>
>     “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have
>     made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the
>     purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED
>     Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and
>     accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive
>     Officer Tim Cook said in a statement
>     <wlmailhtml://news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ>Tuesday.
>
>     Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund,
>     contributing more than $130 million, the company said.
>
>     Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone
>     later this year.
>     Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone
>     which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year
>     of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a
>     cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging
>     markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the
>     services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and
>     the other products category.
>
>     Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in
>     New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.
>
>     Image removed by sender.
>
>     The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB
>     Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24
>     in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone
>     (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at
>     $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for
>     the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in
>     32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing
>     the previous models.
>
>     Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips
>     
> <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>,
>     that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be
>     shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift
>     Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is
>     available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German,
>     Spanish and simplified Chinese.
>
>
>           Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality
>
>     Image removed by sender.
>
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