Christopher,

I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to 
pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun 
to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the 
rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex 
suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, 
it's fun for a bit but enough is enough.
Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around 
there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must 
not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android 
tablets. *smile*


Take care,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? 
The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me 
think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things 
have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been 
just a year ago.

On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
> Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of 
> apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that 
> IOs has, and many other funny things.
>
> It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On 
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and 
> much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are 
> usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of 
> humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPho
> ne-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We 
> need to have some fun.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not 
> helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about 
> is helping each other to learn.
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Sieghard,
>
> Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say 
> it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?
>
> Because you said so?
>
> Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?
>
> No right?
>
> Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an 
> android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you 
> believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise.
>
> But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, 
> obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. 
> It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. 
> More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs 
> and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something 
> that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of 
> customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means.
>
> Leave the list?
>
> No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do 
> during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days 
> of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I 
> have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to 
> bother you.
>
> Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
> experience and expectations.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you 
> became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago.
> Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months 
> and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave 
> this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google 
> Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without 
> competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, 
> don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and 
> Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Most don’t make profit?
>
> How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
>
> It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are 
> moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should 
> recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 
> 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making 
> most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make 
> android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in 
> business forever if they don't make a profit.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
>     reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
>     from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added advances in
>     the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
>     don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
>     that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
>     When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
>     realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
>     pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
>     32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
>     smaller issue.  How many phones out there are getting more and more
>     waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
>     with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
>     to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is
>     guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
>     content from iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and
>     you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
>     have that.  Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
>     when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
>     a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
>     Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
>     thought.
>
>
>
>     Victor
>
>
>
>     *From:*Sieghard Weitzel
>
>     *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM
>
>     *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>     *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>     Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
>     Hi Victor,
>
>
>
>     I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
>     offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
>     media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
>     maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
>     users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
>     defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
>     card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
>     latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes
>     against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some
>     high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be
>     wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example
>     have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an
>     iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but
>     having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
>     hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly
>     waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more
>     difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no
>     problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that
>     nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people
>     still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the
>     space) for $100 more.
>
>
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Sieghard
>
>
>
>     *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>     Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
>     I don’t agree.  Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not
>     with the memory it’s offering.
>
>
>
>     I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s
>     got an expansion slot for an SD card.
>
>
>
>     Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this
>     concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM
>     memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their
>     budget.  Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get
>     the message.
>
>
>
>     Victor
>
>
>
>     *From:*Mr. Ed
>
>     *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM
>
>     *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>     *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>     Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
>     Hi Mary,
>
>     I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a
>     big deal.
>
>     Mr. Ed
>
>
>
>     *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM
>     *To:* mailto:[email protected]
>     *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>     Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
>     These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a
>     substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a
>     bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal.
>     Mary
>
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>     On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just
>         heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would
>         be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be
>         introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much
>         fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer
>         around the iPhone SE..
>
>
>
>
>
>         *From:*[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>         [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Marissa Solaun
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM
>         *To:* mailto:[email protected]
>         *Subject:* Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>         Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
>         May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+
>         
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-ch
> eapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone
>
>
>           Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone
>
>         More stories by Alex Webb
>         <https://wwwbloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb>
>
>         Apple Inc. <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced
>         a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the
>         cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will
>         help to combat AIDS.
>
>         Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina
>         display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum
>         finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s
>         decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the
>         Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS.
>
>         “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers
>         have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS
>         through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod
>         nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup
>         of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple
>         Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a
>         statement <wlmailhtml://news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ> Tuesday.
>
>         Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund,
>         contributing more than $130 million, the company said.
>
>         Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone
>         later this year.
>         Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new
>         iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter
>         after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple
>         introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur
>         growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016
>         fiscal year came from the services business, which includes
>         Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category.
>
>         Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m.
>         in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.
>
>         The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for
>         32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting
>         March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and
>         regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and
>         256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also
>         announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch
>         display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models,
>         doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models.
>
>         Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips
>         
> <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>,
>         that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can
>         be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its
>         Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code,
>         is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French,
>         German, Spanish and simplified Chinese.
>
>
>               Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented 
> Reality
>
>         <ol class="noscript-footnotes"></ol>
>
>
>
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