Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

Evan Reese Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:50:12 -0700

Well, I have to say though that, much as I like my iPad Mini 4, I do missthe ability to snap an SD card into it, and the ability to simply copy andpaste files from my laptop onto it. I've used Windows and before that, DOSlaptops, and being able to transfer files from one place to another issimple and straightforward on those. It does bug me that I need aspecialized app such as iTunes or something else just to get some music onmy iPad Mini 4.When I got it, the web research I did indicated that accessibility wasbetter with iOS than with Android, and I know people with iDevices andthere's a tremendous amount of support for VoiceOver online. I've found alot of useful apps for it. I do like it quite a lot, but the next time I'min the market for a tablet or a phone, and I get info that Android is equalor better accessibilitywise, I may very well jump over to it.

Evan

-----Original Message-----From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:06 PM
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Pablo,

Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons ofEmail to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem ratherthan Apple's closed OS?

Richard

On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com>wrote:

Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in thelist, hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficultiescreated due to the apple close policies.It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is$100, but it is what it costed to me.






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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition RediPhone - Bloomberg

I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. Youwouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work fora business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. Butseriously, Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you hadiPhones before and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you callthem about keeping the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as ithas never been, they make many SDK's available to developers and more willfollow. But I don't want to continue argueing with you, you have youropinion and I have mine and I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Justlet me know when I should send you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift cardfor the Google Play store, their apps are so cheap that it will be goodfor the rest of your life *smile*. It's good that Apple at least pays allthe developers fairly, it's like a subsidy from Apple so they can affordto develop their apps for Google.


Take care,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition RediPhone - Bloomberg


Hi Sieghard,

No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy Ihave been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, youshould know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. Ihave paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems withIOs, plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy dueto the headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of thisiPhone is too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4years. It is why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android.Economicly is not a good desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and thecost of the same apps for android. Just see how many headaches you and mehave taken due to the software policies of apple.Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy aniPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not ahuge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than yearsago, but we added some new.

Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000.




-----Original Message-----

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition RediPhone - Bloomberg


Christopher,

I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is boundto pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's somuch fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's chargingto the rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had towear a Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways,I'll stop it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough.Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lyingaround there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junkso it must not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probablybuy 2 Android tablets. *smile*



Take care,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

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I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that articlewritten? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7%makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting toknow if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android nowthen I would have been just a year ago.

On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of
apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that
IOs has, and many other funny things.

It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh alot.






*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and
much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are
usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of
humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPho
ne-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html









*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We
need to have some fun.





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
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*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not
helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about
is helping each other to learn.



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Sieghard,

Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say
it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?

Because you said so?

Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?

No right?

Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an
android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you
believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise.

But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better,
obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs.
It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has.
More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs
and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something
that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of
customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means.

Leave the list?

No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do
during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days
of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I

have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like tobother you.


Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my
experience and expectations.













*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you

became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or twoago.

Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months
and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave
this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google
Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without
competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo,
don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and
Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are
moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should
recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus
6p, or a pixel phone. They are great.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making
most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make
android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in
business forever if they don't make a profit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia
<victor.gouv...@rogers.com <mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in
the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more
waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and
you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a
thought.

Victor

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg

Hi Victor,

I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes
against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some
high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be
wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example
have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an
iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but
having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly
waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more
difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no
problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that
nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people
still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the
space) for $100 more.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg

I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not
with the memory it’s offering.

I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s
got an expansion slot for an SD card.

Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this
concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM
memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their
budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get
the message.

Victor

*From:*Mr. Ed

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg

Hi Mary,

I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a
big deal.

Mr. Ed

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM
*To:* mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg

These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a
substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a
bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just
heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would
be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be
introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much
fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer
around the iPhone SE..

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marissa Solaun
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM
*To:* mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg

May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-ch
eapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone

Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone

More stories by Alex Webb
<https://wwwbloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb>

Apple Inc. <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced
a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the
cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will
help to combat AIDS.

Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina
display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum
finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s
decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the
Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS.

“Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers
have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS
through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod
nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup
of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple
Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a
statement <wlmailhtml://news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ> Tuesday.

Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund,
contributing more than $130 million, the company said.

Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone
later this year.
Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new
iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter
after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple
introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur
growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016
fiscal year came from the services business, which includes
Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category.

Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m.
in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.

The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for
32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting
March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and
regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and
256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also
announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch
display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models,
doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models.

Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips

<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>,
that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can
be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its
Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code,
is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French,
German, Spanish and simplified Chinese.

Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented
Reality

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