Thank you, Less.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi Mark,

I'm not certain if this is a generic command, but on my Braille Connect 32,
dots 23 chord and dots 56 chord cycle through the rotor settings.

Les
On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:11 PM, "M. Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Theresa,
> 
> How does one bring up the Rotor on the Braille display?  
> 
> For some reason, I just don't remember the command.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
> 
> Hi, Mark,
> 
> Vertical navigation is in the rotor. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in 
> IBooks.
> 
> One thing I like about using the Focus 40 blue with IBooks now is that 
> the rotor switches to navigation mode when on the page chooser, so 
> it's possible to flip pages with the wheel. Then I just pan left once 
> and I go to the top of the page.
> 
> The new functionality is taking some getting used to, but I think it 
> will work for me. For me it's not a deal-breaker in any case.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> This is Mark Taylor.
>> 
>> How does one set vertical navigation and how will this benefit we 
>> Focus 40 Blue users?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:19 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
>> 
>> Hi Cheryl, could you not set the rotor to verticle navigation?
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
>> Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 10:09 a.m.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
>> the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
>> they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
>> line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. 
>> When I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a 
>> practical way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not 
>> flying off the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid 
>> of something new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the 
>> way VoiceOver
> behaves.
>> 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
>> 
>> Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
>> The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
>> K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand 
>> what
> they now do.
>> 
>> People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
>> but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
>> different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
>> still
> very much useable.
>> 
>> Here's a summary that may assist.
>> 
>> Router Row Double tap the selected item.
>> Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
>> Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
>> Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
>> Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
>> Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
>> Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
>> Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
>> Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
>> Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
>> Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
>> Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
>> Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
>> Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
>> Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
>> Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
>> Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
>> either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
>> Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead.
>> VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
>> Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver 
>> focus will jump back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and 
>> after a few seconds, may eventually land where it is supposed to.
>> 
>> Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into 
>> this update, the unintended consequences, for me at least, are that 
>> Braille is virtually unuseable on my phone. At the very least, it's 
>> not practical. So, I plan to downgrade back to iOS5.1.1, if I can 
>> figure
> out where to get it.
>> 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Annie Skov Nielsen
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:20 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> You can not change whiz wheels behaviour in IOS as far as I know.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> 
>> 
>> Den Sep 19, 2012 kl. 10:10 PM skrev Scott Davert
> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> Hi Anney.
>>> Have you made sure that your wizwheels didn't get changed by accident?
>>> You know that if you press streight down on them, this will toggle 
>>> how they navigate, right? I used a focus 40 blue with wizwheels in 
>>> an earlier beta version, and did not have this issue.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 9/19/12, Annie Skov Nielsen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> It is not possible anymore to go to the next line with your left 
>>>> hand in IOS 6. Apple has changed the behaviours of the wheels in 
>>>> focus 40 blue, and in the new version the bottuns, so that you will 
>>>> now go to the next item chosen in the router whith the wheel in the 
>>>> left
> side.
>>>> 
>>>> it is a major problem for us who are reading with the wright hand 
>>>> and like to go to the next display with the left hand. Now you will 
>>>> have to read and go to the next line with your wright hand, it will 
>>>> waste much time when reading.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anybody a work around.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards Annie.
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